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Are those tiny pocket LP's in the timeline yet? Made I believe by Philco-Ford in the mid-60's? AA Shai Drori wrote: > The micro cassette and mini cassette were not music media so I > wouldn't count them in. If you do then don't forget the steno cassette > as well and Sony's NT. As for the Elcaset, there were no commercial > tapes released as far as i know. The only pre-recorded tape was the > demo tape that Sony made, so again I think it should not be on the > time line. However, RCA's sound tape and Playtape should be considered > maybe. m2cw. > Shai > > Corey Bailey wrote: >> Would the Micro-cassette be worth mentioning perhaps as a >> sub-species? The format is still in production. >> >> What about the short lived Elcaset? >> >> http://home.claranet.nl/users/pb0aia/cm/elcaset/index.html >> >> >> Holiday cheers! >> >> Corey >> Corey Bailey Audio Engineering >> >> >> At 02:24 PM 12/30/2009, you wrote: >>> And when we look beyond U.S. borders, the cassette remains crucial >>> in a lot of countries, in a variety of contexts. >>> >>> Best, >>> Kyle >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List on behalf of >>> Timothy Wisniewski >>> Sent: Wed 12/30/2009 4:24 PM >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Media Timeline - Historical Assistance Please >>> >>> I agree with Jack. The cassette is still alive as a niche format, not >>> just for radio programs, but also it continues to be a popular format >>> with small-run independent labels, particularly those of the >>> experimental, "noise", and "lo-fi" varieties. For reasons both >>> aesthetic and practical, some find the format preferable to CDR for >>> small-run releases. I suspect these small-run labels are among the >>> main constituents keeping the few bulk cassette suppliers left in >>> business. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:42 PM, jack palmer <[log in to unmask]> >>> wrote: >>> > I wonder about the cassette tape use. Many radio shows are still >>> copied and sold in that format although MP3s are taking over a lot >>> of it now. I would say it was still a niche use. At least for >>> another year or so. >>> > Jack >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ________________________________ >>> > From: Richard L. Hess <[log in to unmask]> >>> > To: [log in to unmask] >>> > Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 4:36:33 PM >>> > Subject: [ARSCLIST] Media Timeline - Historical Assistance Please >>> > >>> > Hello, All! >>> > >>> > Happy New Year! >>> > >>> > I was helping my older son (the budding musician) with a school >>> project and I tried to find a good timeline of audio recording media >>> for CONSUMER DELIVERY and I realized that it is more difficult to >>> create than it initially appears. >>> > >>> > What I really would like to see are date ranges for >>> > Development (which can involve limited commercialization) >>> > Major Factor >>> > Dominant Format >>> > Decline of Format >>> > Niche application of Format >>> > End of Format >>> > >>> > Not all formats would have all dates. >>> > >>> > I see this ultimately as a coloured bar chart with hotter colours >>> as it is used more. >>> > >>> > I would like to address (at least) the following formats. I have >>> Developed and Ended dates for all of them (any corrections would be >>> appreciated). I use 2025 to mean "ongoing" as it makes the math >>> easier and these will run off the right side of the chart. >>> > >>> > Here is what I'm hoping for (and these are guesstimates). Note >>> that all dates are not required for each format. See the LP for a >>> completely filled sequence. >>> > >>> > Should I start with sheet music? ? ? >>> > >>> > Cylinder Developed 1877 Ended 1931 >>> > Acoustical 78s Developed 1897 Ended 1931 >>> > Electrical 78s Developed 1924 Ended 1962 >>> > **Long Play 33 Developed 1948 Major 1952 Dominant 1955 Decline >>> 1980 Niche 1990 Ended 2025 >>> > Single 45 Developed 1949 Ended 1990 >>> > 2-track reel Developed 1953 Ended 1960 >>> > 4-track cart Developed 1956 Ended 1965 >>> > 4-track reel Developed 1958 Major 1963 Decline 1970 Ended 1980 >>> > cassette Developed 1963 Major 1970 Dominant 1978 Decline 1993 >>> Niche 2002 Ended 2008 >>> > 8-track cart Developed 1965 Major 1968 Decline 1978 Ended 1988 >>> > CD Developed 1982 Major 1986 Dominant 1990 Decline 2006 Ended 2025 >>> > DCC Developed 1992 Ended 1996 >>> > MD Developed 1992 Major 1995 Decline 2000 Ended 2009 >>> > Digital Downloads Developed 1994 Major 1999 Dominant 2006 Ended 2025 >>> > >>> > Another way of showing this (and more difficult in Excel) would be >>> to have the width of the line indicate the relative dominance of a >>> format on a given date. I don't think we have enough data to do that >>> for all of these. >>> > >>> > Whatever dates any of you would like to modify or add, I would >>> appreciate it. >>> > >>> > Thanks! >>> > >>> > Cheers, >>> > >>> > Richard >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Richard L. Hess email: [log in to unmask] >>> > Aurora, Ontario, Canada (905) 713 6733 1-877-TAPE-FIX >>> > Detailed contact information: >>> http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm >>> > Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Timothy Wisniewski, M.L.I.S. >>> >>> Visual Materials Archivist >>> Alan Mason Chesney Medical Archives >>> Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions >>> 5801 Smith Avenue, Suite 235 >>> Baltimore, MD 21209 >> >