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Are those tiny pocket LP's in the timeline yet? Made I believe by 
Philco-Ford in the mid-60's?

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Shai Drori wrote:
> The micro cassette and mini cassette were not music media so I 
> wouldn't count them in. If you do then don't forget the steno cassette 
> as well and Sony's NT. As for the Elcaset, there were no commercial 
> tapes released as far as i know. The only pre-recorded tape was the 
> demo tape that Sony made, so again I think it should not be on the 
> time line. However, RCA's sound tape and Playtape should be considered 
> maybe. m2cw.
> Shai
>
> Corey Bailey wrote:
>> Would the Micro-cassette be worth mentioning perhaps as a 
>> sub-species?  The format is still in production.
>>
>> What about the short lived Elcaset?
>>
>> http://home.claranet.nl/users/pb0aia/cm/elcaset/index.html
>>
>>
>> Holiday cheers!
>>
>> Corey
>> Corey Bailey Audio Engineering
>>
>>
>> At 02:24 PM 12/30/2009, you wrote:
>>> And when we look beyond U.S. borders, the cassette remains crucial 
>>> in a lot of countries, in a variety of contexts.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Kyle
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List on behalf of 
>>> Timothy Wisniewski
>>> Sent: Wed 12/30/2009 4:24 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Media Timeline - Historical Assistance Please
>>>
>>> I agree with Jack.  The cassette is still alive as a niche format, not
>>> just for radio programs, but also it continues to be a popular format
>>> with small-run independent labels, particularly those of the
>>> experimental, "noise", and "lo-fi" varieties.  For reasons both
>>> aesthetic and practical, some find the format preferable to CDR for
>>> small-run releases.  I suspect these small-run labels are among the
>>> main constituents keeping the few bulk cassette suppliers left in
>>> business.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:42 PM, jack palmer <[log in to unmask]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> > I wonder about the cassette tape use.  Many radio shows are still 
>>> copied and sold in that format although MP3s are taking over a lot 
>>> of it now.  I would say it was still a niche use.  At least for 
>>> another year or so.
>>> >        Jack
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________
>>> > From: Richard L. Hess <[log in to unmask]>
>>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>>> > Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 4:36:33 PM
>>> > Subject: [ARSCLIST] Media Timeline - Historical Assistance Please
>>> >
>>> > Hello, All!
>>> >
>>> > Happy New Year!
>>> >
>>> > I was helping my older son (the budding musician) with a school 
>>> project and I tried to find a good timeline of audio recording media 
>>> for CONSUMER DELIVERY and I realized that it is more difficult to 
>>> create than it initially appears.
>>> >
>>> > What I really would like to see are date ranges for
>>> > Development (which can involve limited commercialization)
>>> > Major Factor
>>> > Dominant Format
>>> > Decline of Format
>>> > Niche application of Format
>>> > End of Format
>>> >
>>> > Not all formats would have all dates.
>>> >
>>> > I see this ultimately as a coloured bar chart with hotter colours 
>>> as it is used more.
>>> >
>>> > I would like to address (at least) the following formats. I have 
>>> Developed and Ended dates for all of them (any corrections would be 
>>> appreciated). I use 2025 to mean "ongoing" as it makes the math 
>>> easier and these will run off the right side of the chart.
>>> >
>>> > Here is what I'm hoping for (and these are guesstimates). Note 
>>> that all dates are not required for each format. See the LP for a 
>>> completely filled sequence.
>>> >
>>> > Should I start with sheet music? ? ?
>>> >
>>> > Cylinder Developed 1877 Ended 1931
>>> > Acoustical 78s Developed 1897 Ended 1931
>>> > Electrical 78s Developed 1924 Ended 1962
>>> > **Long Play 33 Developed 1948 Major 1952 Dominant 1955 Decline 
>>> 1980 Niche 1990 Ended 2025
>>> > Single 45 Developed 1949 Ended 1990
>>> > 2-track reel Developed 1953 Ended 1960
>>> > 4-track cart Developed 1956 Ended 1965
>>> > 4-track reel Developed 1958 Major 1963 Decline 1970 Ended 1980
>>> > cassette Developed 1963 Major 1970 Dominant 1978 Decline 1993 
>>> Niche 2002 Ended 2008
>>> > 8-track cart Developed 1965 Major 1968 Decline 1978 Ended 1988
>>> > CD Developed 1982 Major 1986 Dominant 1990 Decline 2006 Ended 2025
>>> > DCC Developed 1992 Ended 1996
>>> > MD Developed 1992 Major 1995 Decline 2000 Ended 2009
>>> > Digital Downloads Developed 1994 Major 1999 Dominant 2006 Ended 2025
>>> >
>>> > Another way of showing this (and more difficult in Excel) would be 
>>> to have the width of the line indicate the relative dominance of a 
>>> format on a given date. I don't think we have enough data to do that 
>>> for all of these.
>>> >
>>> > Whatever dates any of you would like to modify or add, I would 
>>> appreciate it.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> >
>>> > Richard
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Richard L. Hess                  email: [log in to unmask]
>>> > Aurora, Ontario, Canada      (905) 713 6733    1-877-TAPE-FIX
>>> > Detailed contact information: 
>>> http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm
>>> > Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Timothy Wisniewski, M.L.I.S.
>>>
>>> Visual Materials Archivist
>>> Alan Mason Chesney Medical Archives
>>> Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions
>>> 5801 Smith Avenue, Suite 235
>>> Baltimore, MD 21209
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