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Hand raised. Oh yeah, I used the same construction method a couple of times since then. Also used stained cinder blocks as speaker stands. I cemented felt on the ends to protect the bottom of the speakers and wood floor. Now I find out that the lye used to make the darn things can become airborne and is a health hazard if all of the surfaces aren't painted. How many actually painted your cinder blocks? Cheers! Corey Corey Bailey Audio Engineering Quoting Michael Biel <[log in to unmask]>: > OK, show of hands. How many of you used boards and cinderblocks or > bricks to build your college dorm bookshelves? > > Mike (wishing the steel shelving he used to use was still available) > Biel [log in to unmask] > > > > George Brock-Nannestad wrote: > > From: Patent Tactics, George Brock-Nannestad > > > > Brandon Burke asked: > > > > > >> Anyone else think it's ironic (sad even?) that a thread originally about > >> preservation and long-term > >> housing solutions has turned into a discussion of milk crate > technologies.. > >> > > > > ----- I for one don't. Because the query was about an instant problem, not > > > about preservation and long-term housing at all. People reacted on their > gut > > feeling and saw "long term", so their posts were just as misguided. And > > reacting by going into fibre-glass reinforced milk crates is just as > > relevant. > > > > I think that we may have information overload, but from free association > > something good may still come. People used plywood in the old days (see the > > > original post), and the fortuitous fact that certain milk crates are > actually > > also very good for housing records with stiff covers shows that when there > > > was a demand outside the archiving world, elements useful in archiving > became > > much cheaper. However, only one ARSCLIST poster really made good use of > them. > > And this is the eternal problem of archiving: we have to rely on technology > > > originally developed for other purposes, because there is so little > prestige > > in archiving that there is no funding for buying tailor-made solutions. > > > > On another list a reference to a most relevant document has been posted, > and > > I recommend it heartily, although I have not finished reading it. It is > > available at: > > > > http://brtf.sdsc.edu/biblio/BRTF_Final_Report.pdf > > > > and it is called "Sustainable Economics for a Digital Planet". It is very > > sobering reading. Fortunately, in other places there are still those who > work > > on an easily accessible and durable (non-migration-requiring) medium. It is > > > my personal view that that is the only long-term viable solution. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > George > > > > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Steven C. Barr" <[log in to unmask]> > >> To: [log in to unmask] > >> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 8:14:28 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > >> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] 16" transcription disc housing & moving audio > >> collections > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Michael Biel" <[log in to unmask]> > >> > >>> Thornton Hagert wrote: > >>> > >>>> Oh, for the Good-Old-Days when milk-crates were milk-crates ! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Not really. They were made of wire then and totally unsuitable for > >>> anything but glass quart bottles. . > >>> > >>> > >> I actually have one of those "wire" milk boxes out in my garage! As you > >> note, it isn't good for 78's. The "golden age" of milk boxes was in the > >> mid-seventies, at least in the Toronto area...Sealtest used what look to > >> be fiberglas boxes, which are VERY durable...they were red in colour. > >> There was a "second issue" of the newer smaller boxes...these are very > >> hard to find, and are green in colour...! However, I was given about 300 > >> or so of the red ones, by a variety-store owner...he had been "caught" > >> with them when the size was changed, and as a result the dairy no longer > >> wanted them (nor would they pay his deposit on them...!). > >> > >> Steven C. Barr > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Brandon Burke > >> Archivist for Recorded Sound Collections > >> Hoover Institution Archives > >> Stanford University > >> Stanford, CA 94305-6010 > >> vox: 650.724.9711 > >> fax: 650.725.3445 > >> email: [log in to unmask] > >> > > > > > > >