'Currently, there is NO discography covering the classical-music recordings
of 19??-1943'  

Check the listings on and at; the classical listings go well past 1943. Coming soon, as soon as I can refresh, espand and edit the data, a new home and a new website.

As for ... GIGO applies in spades, esp. for the historical recordings. It's a nice tool for in-print CDs, though.  

Mike Gray

Baoshan Sheng | International Classical Music Database wrote:
> Hi Tom:
> Have a look at a project: (somewhat stale, we're working
> at it now).
> Try to make some search and exploration. I want to know if this is what you
> need.
> Any kinds of critics is truly welcomed.
> Regards,
> --
> Baoshan Sheng
> Director | International Classical Music Database
> + 86 10 5162 6468 | [log in to unmask]
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Steven C. Barr <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Tom Fine" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> This article highlights an overall interesting trend. But the reviewer
>>> also points out the confusing and inconsistent tagging that happens with
>>> classical music in MP3 and other tag-enabled formats.
>>> I have found that cddb/Gracenote and freedb are fraught with problematic
>>> and inconsistent data-entry for classical titles. There are actually tags
>>> that work great for how classical music is generally understood --
>>>  COMPOSER, ARTIST, ALBUM ARTIST and ALBUM TITLE for instance. You can
>>> customize iTunes and other database programs to list by whatever field you
>>> wish, for instance by artist and album title or by composer and title, so if
>>> the data is entered correctly, it need not be totally PITA to use classical
>>> music in an iTunes setting. But unfortunately, most of the pre-programmed
>>> metadata out there is garbage, typical of internet "group volunteer"
>>> operations with no oversight or quality control. Sometimes "help" is not
>>> helpful.
>>> What has surprised me is that the owners of copyrighted classical
>>> recordings haven't gotten together to standardize and publish correct
>>> tag-entry methods and to correct at least their active catalogs. I can
>>> understand how there's no economic incentive to fix out of print items, but
>>> the active catalog gets lost in the shuffle (ipod pun intended) if the tags
>>> aren't right.
>>> Classical titles are just the most glaring examples of the problems with
>>> the online auto-tag databases. I used the Catraxx catalog-database program
>>> to gather and organize my jazz, rock, country and popular CD's and I found
>>> that at least 50% of the auto-loaded tags needed tweaking for something.
>>> Either the recording year was wrong (most common), or something that was not
>>> a compilation was listed as one (also very common), or in the case of jazz,
>>> the musicians weren't listed in the MEMO field (this is a convenience and I
>>> don't hold it against the online databases that this information is usually
>>> missing or incorrect), or the record company was incorrectly or
>>> inconsistently named (very common), etc.
>>> Gracenote is a for-profit entity, so there should be better quality
>>> control. Apple's own database at the iTunes store has more errors than you'd
>>> think in the more obscure corners of jazz, and classical selections are
>>> harder to correctly indentify and locate than rock or jazz. For these
>>> for-profit entities, there's no excuse for the poor quality control. And
>>> what's particularly galling is, none of this should be necessary since CD
>>> Text was available from the beginning of CD's and should have been used to
>>> correctly identify artists and songs (which would then make filling in other
>>> tags much easier and more prone to be complete and correct).
>>> I wish I could propose an easy solution to this, but the only one I can
>>> think of is that buyers of digital downloads demand better tagging/database
>>> information from the highly profitable entities they buy from. As for
>>> cleaning up Gracenote and freedb, I won't hold my breath. I do submit
>>> corrected information to Gracenote from both Catraxx and the iTunes software
>>> most of the time, and appreciate all other users who do so too.
>>>  What is needed is a ACD...a classical-based equivalent to the familiiar
>> ADBD!!
>> Currently, there is NO discography covering the classical-music recordings
>> of 19??-1943...I discovered this when attempting to include classical discs
>> in my Dating Guide...?
>> Steven C. Barr