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Louise,

Before OCLC had the ability to keep the headings under control, headings on PCC records would get 'out of sync' with the very authority records created for the purpose of control. So many older PCC records may or may not have controlled headings, particularly for 'undifferentiated' names... BUT that is another topic and one that has just been discussed (again). So there is no reason to 'trust' the authority control on BIBCO records. 

I doubt that anyone questions my or Stephen's commitment to authority control, however I'm not sure 'locking' a record against improvements because it is BIBCO was a good decision.

Mary Charles   

-----Original Message-----
From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ratliff, Louise
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] a NACO question

PCC records are required to have all headings be authorized, in either the national name or in nationally recognized subject authority files.

Louise 

-----Original Message-----
From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stephen Hearn
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:30 AM
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Subject: Re: a NACO question

One could make an argument that an OCLC member record with correctly 
controlled headings is closer to the PCC ideal than a PCC record with 
correct but uncontrolled headings.

Stephen

Lasater, Mary Charles wrote:
> Amy & All,
>
> My answer to your question below is: YES. I've long felt that instead of a service to others the BIBCO records are a problem.
>
> Mary Charles Lasater
>
> On the more general question of the size of the pool of PCC records, are others discouraged from making PCC records because present OCLC policy locks them from upgrades by non-PCC libraries (although LC records CAN be upgraded?).  
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kate Harcourt
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 12:26 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] a NACO question
>
> I think local headings can exist in PCC cataloging records if marked with 
> $5. WorldCat local libraries need to be able to record local data, for 
> example. DLF/OCLC Registry of Digital Masters also allows for local 
> fields. The pool of PCC records will be diminished if we do not accomodate 
> other needs. As long as the fields are marked as $5, librarians will know 
> if they are local or are supported by authority records. At Columbia we 
> run a program to remove other libraries local headings and notes based on 
> $5. They can be just as misleading in a non-PCC records as they are in a 
> PCC records.
>
> Kate
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Robert Maxwell wrote:
>
>   
>> As I understand it, OCLC has indeed instructed us to delete purely local headings from master records. No need for an exception.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Robert L. Maxwell
>> Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian
>> Genre/Form Authorities Librarian
>> 6728 Harold B. Lee Library
>> Brigham Young University
>> Provo, UT 84602
>> (801)422-5568
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joachim Jr, Martin D
>> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:24 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: a NACO question
>>
>> I have a problem when upgrading records with local headings to PCC status.  I am currently working on a project to enhance the cataloging of the incunabula in the Lilly Library at Indiana University and enter this cataloging into OCLC.  Most of the records in OCLC are brief and require a lot of editing.  The records are being enhanced to full PCC
>> level.  The problem is with records that have local fields, usually 700 fields that indicate former owners of particular items.  As a PCC cataloger, I don't think that it should be my job to create an authority record for a local heading in someone else's local catalog. I don't feel right about deleting such headings from national database records although I do routinely delete such headings from records that have been added to our own local files.  Has any other PCC cataloger dealt with this situation, and how have you handled it?  Can we consider making such headings ($5 for institution for which field applies) exceptions to the rules that all headings in PCC records must be supported by authority records?  I must admit, however, that I don't like the idea of making exceptions to what constitutes a PCC-level record.
>>
>> Marty Joachim
>> Lilly Library
>> Indiana University Libraries
>> [log in to unmask]
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:58 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: a NACO question
>>
>> Bibco catalogers are not required to create Bibco records for all the cataloging they do, but if they do create Bibco records (authenticated with "pcc" in 042), all headings must be established in the NACO/LC Authority file. So a Bibco cataloger can't have "local" headings on a PCC-Bibco record; however, if they want to use local headings they're always free to create a record that isn't PCC-Bibco. Or authenticate the master record with only NACO authorized headings and then have local headings in their local version of the record.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Robert L. Maxwell
>> Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian
>> Genre/Form Authorities Librarian
>> 6728 Harold B. Lee Library
>> Brigham Young University
>> Provo, UT 84602
>> (801)422-5568
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ted P Gemberling
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 11:22 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: a NACO question
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>> I thought of something that I realize may undermine what I just said. Could aversion to undifferentiated headings have something to do with Bibco membership?
>>
>> I don't work at a Bibco library, so the headings in my catalog are not necessarily coextensive with headings in the NAF. I don't have to work as hard on national headings and can create my own local ones to differentiate author identities. Perhaps a Bibco library would have to settle for a bad collocation of authors with similar names because they wouldn't do that, and that might explain the aversion to undifferentiated headings.
>>
>> Do Bibco rules discourage use of local headings?
>>
>> Maybe if Bibco catalogers felt more freedom to create local headings for their collections, undifferentiated national headings wouldn't seem so bad.
>>
>> Ted Gemberling
>> UAB Lister Hill Library
>> (205)934-2461
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Deborah J. Leslie
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 9:36 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] a NACO question
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>> I am in complete agreement with Richard, and pronounce anathema on
>> undifferentiated name headings.
>> _________________________
>> Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S.
>> RBMS Chair 2009-2010 | Head of Cataloging, Folger Shakespeare Library
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>
> Kate Harcourt
> Director, Original and Special Materials Cataloging
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