On 8/14/2010 9:29 PM, Steven C. Barr wrote:
> From: "Michael Biel" <[log in to unmask]>
>>  Michael Biel wrote:
>> >> Decca has been thoroughly documented by Michel Ruppli in his 
>> published
>> >> discography set, although I do recall there being one sector of
>> classical
>> >> releases of imported masters that I wasn't able to find.
>> On 8/14/2010 3:29 AM, Michel RUPPLI wrote:
>>> Michael has well  reported on going work on Columbia and Victor 
>>> labels, as well as my past work on Decca label***
>>> *** Mike: all Decca imports were included in my Decca Discography - 
>>> Vol. 5 pages 631-736.
> Point beingt that the Decca(US) ledgers still exist (I'm not sure in 
> their
> entirety?!).

Unless they were caught up in the Universal Studios warehouse fire.  
Nobody is telling us

> And, yes, Decca(US) DID make arrangements (or use pre-
> 1946 matrices?!) to create a series intended to compete with Victor's
> "Red Seal" series(ses) and its Columbia equivalent...?!
> There WERE 20***/25*** Deccas, which drew from the above series;
> these series ended c.1935-36, when Decca realized there was more
> money to be made in non-classical trcordings...!  Steven C. Barr

Yes I would assume that a series that you say ended in 1935-36 did use 
"pre-1946 matrices".  And these were the series which Lennick and I 
discuss later on in this posting.  We know they exist, we are wondering 
if they are included somewhere in the book that we hadn't spotted.

Mike Biel   [log in to unmask]

>> Does it include issues in catalog number series 20000 and 25000?  
>> This came up in March on the 78-L because I only have your volume 6 
>> -- the numerical catalog number index -- while David Lennick has the 
>> whole set. He brought this up, I assume while referring to Vol 5.  He 
>> mentions a 10-inch 20000 and 12-inch 25000 Decca Odeon-Parlophone 
>> series which also used some English Decca masters.  Volume 6 shows 
>> these numbers only being reused for a short-lived Plays series (Death 
>> of a Salesman and The Council) and a popular Special Series 
>> respectively.  The ones he was talking about were:
>>>>>> red label classical and some Ethnic. "Sounds of
>>>>>>  the Orient" (exact title?) was in that series. Handel's Concerti 
>>>>>> Grossi nos.
>>>>>>  1-3 conducted by Boyd Neel were on 25655/67, Walton's Symphony 
>>>>>> was on 25600/5,
>>>>>>  a couple of Betove's records were in the 20000s. No albums 
>>>>>> provided. Several
>>>>>>  of these and the 10-inch 20000 series were still in the 1943 
>>>>>> catalog.
>> I replied:
>>>>>  The 1941 POPULAR catalog shows the 20000 and
>>>>>  25000 series in the price list on the inside front cover but doesn't
>>>>>  list them in the catalog, along with most of the ethnic series 
>>>>> such as
>>>>>  Irish, Mexican, Scotch, Race, West Indian, and Hill Billy.  
>>>>> Except for a
>>>>>  few of these that are numbered in the regular popular series -- 
>>>>> mostly
>>>>>  for inclusion in an album -- those are in separate catalogs.
>> I also mentioned several other numerical series numbers which had 
>> been reused and both are included in your book, such as the two K- 
>> children's series and the two 29000 series.
>> Lennick also noted:
>>>>>>  Ruppli also didn't list any of the Decca custom matrix numbers
>>>>>>  used for Commodore, Keynote and private labels in the early 40s
>>>>>>  ..maddening, since he did list some that were used in the 30s
>>>>>>  for Liberty Music Shops.
>> While we are at it, I found a few items in the preface to Vol 6 that 
>> need correction:
>>>  "After the war, a new peak in activity occurred.  Decca purchased
>>>  material from the Signature lanel and started reissuing vintage 
>>> material
>>>  from Brunswick, using a revised Brunswick logo."
>> I'm not sure of the date of Signature material, but the Brunswick 
>> series began during the 1942 strike,in response to the Columbia 
>> reissues Avakian was doing.  Didn't Milt Gabler do these?  You then 
>> mention Coral and Vocalion as being started at the same time (after 
>> the war) but since Brunswick reissues had started in 1942, this is 
>> wrong.  Besides. these labels came about quite a bit after the war, 
>> closer to 1950.
>> But the biggest error is this:
>> "In the meantime, Jack Kapp, who had headed the label since the
>> beginning, resigned to form his own company and produce recordings under
>> the Kapp label (not included in this set)."
>> Jack Kapp DIED suddenly on March 28, 1949 at the age of 48.  His 
>> brother DAVE Kapp was the one who resigned a few years later and 
>> formed Kapp Records in 1954.
>> Relative small, but nagging problems, is such a great work!
>> Mike [log in to unmask]