Keep in mind too, that there are "underlying" rights to many of these recordings. That is, songwriting copyrights which are unlikely to be in the public domain in any country. I doubt very much that the proprietors of the website are paying those any mind, either. Sam Brylawski On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Pete Tinker <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > �D'oh! �I should have thought of that. �The site contains no clues except > for the name of the presumed owner. �Following up on that, i encountered > someone by that name living in California and having a strong interest in > old country music. �It's a .com, but his hosting service offers those > domains in the U.K. and Canada as well as the U.S. > > On 8/27/2010 1:09 PM, Steven Smolian wrote: >> >> In what country are they located? >> >> Steve Smolian >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pete Tinker >> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 3:50 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Ph.D. needs educating (copyright) >> >> � Hello, all! �Educate me, please! >> >> A web site that offers MP3s on CD media makes this claim: >> >>> The pre-1972 selections on these MP3s are assumed to be in the PUBLIC >>> DOMAIN. Further, they were digitized by the --company name-- team from >>> analog sources in our archives. We spent hundreds of hours creating >>> WAV files from our Records (78s, 45s and LPs) and Tapes (reel to reel >>> and casette). The WAV files were later ripped to MP3s. If anyone has >>> written proof that any selections are not PUBLIC DOMAIN, please notify >>> this Web-Site. Those selections will no longer be offered for TRADE or >>> SALE. >> >> I say they are NOT PD. >> 1. �They are advertised as from the 1920s-1030s. >> 2. �They are not for "safe backup" by the owner of the original disks. >> 3. �"Pre-1972" in the case of recordings from the 20s and 30s has no >> bearing >> on the copyright limitation. >> 4. �The media change (called "time-shifting," I believe) has no bearing on >> the copyright issues. >> >> I'll provide the URL for any requests OFF-LIST. �I don't want to harm the >> proprietors by publicly airing questionable linens. >> >> Aside: �The site is not<http://honkingduck.com/dp/>, but that site allows >> web access to similar records. �Apparently silenced in 2002 >> <http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=46490&messages=29#689738>, it's >> back >> now<http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=49203>, with no legal >> disclaimers. >> >> Thanks in advance for any helpful info! >> -- >> *Pete Tinker* >> 23257 Gilmore St. >> West Hills, CA 91307 >> 818-346-5213 >> 818-694-5213 /(cell)/ >> > > -- > *Pete Tinker* > 23257 Gilmore St. > West Hills, CA 91307 > 818-346-5213 > 818-694-5213 /(cell)/ >