I think I recall seeing some two sided Berliners on eBay. Roger ________________________________ From: Michael Biel <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 1:53:22 AM Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] origins of 2-sided discs From: Roger Kulp <[log in to unmask]> > Could you tell me more bout the 1904 records? > Roger They had no special catalog numbers, just the regular numbers of the two separate sides. But these are not even close to what Allen is going to write about because there were some experimental Berliner examples as well as an early 7-inch Eldridge Johnson children's record that was two sided. These have long been common knowledge. I'm just wondering if he has found some other examples. Mike Biel [log in to unmask] ________________________________ From: Steven <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 8:27:29 PM Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] origins of 2-sided discs From: Roger Kulp > I take it the American Columbia "Double Disc" records were not the first ones? > Roger > Oddly enough, not even Columbia's first! Columbia issued a handful of 2-sided records c.1904. The record industry was NOT that quick to sell/promote two-sided records; those doubled their costs, but didn't sell twice as well...! What Columbia's heavy promotion of "Double Discs" DID do was essentially to force Victor (and a handful of "indie" labels, all of whom would be sued out of existence by 1909) into the issuance of two-sided records...! Steven C. Barr