fwiw i use taiyo for masters and listening disks. i've used MAM gold for archives, but in the long run, an archive optical is a data disk! At 6:00 -0500 11/11/10, Tom Fine wrote: >For what it's worth, I have found that blue-dye silver discs, I >prefer Toyo-Yuden just because I have years of good experiences >(successful burns, near-universal playability), seem to work best as >playback media. In fussy car players, in old home players, in early >DVD players, etc. I also have heard similar things to what Corey >heard in a gold MAM vs. a blue-dye T-Y, played back in a mid-90's >vintage Philips CD player. Played back via my Tascam CD recorder, I >couldn't hear any difference. I am guessing that older CD players >have trouble reading the gold-backed CDs and thus either more error >correction is going on or for some reason jitter is being induced, >or some other digital-realm thing is going on. My conclusion was to >pursue the same recommendations as Corey -- blue-dye/silver for >playback, gold-back for archiving (although I highly recommend a >maintained hard-drive archiving strategy). > >-- Tom Fine > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Corey Bailey" <[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]> >Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:43 AM >Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Falcon Optical Media > > >In 2002 I was given the task of archiving some >¼", 15ips music masters for a client who was very >specific about the delivery requirements and even >the CD burner to be used. The burner had to be >either a certain model Plextor or an early model >Phillips (a 2X burner). The CD media for playback >had to be Taiyo Yuden brand cyanine (green) dye >CD-R's. The archival media for the flattened >files was to be Kodak gold. All of this came from >the debate at the time that cyanine, although the >least stable was the best sounding of the three >available dyes and that gold-layered CD's were, in fact, the worst sounding. > >This prompted me to perform my own listening >tests and indeed, I was able to detect a slight >difference between a gold-layered CD-R and a >silver layered one. The gold-layered CD-R sounded >a bit harsher in the mid range to me than the >silver layered samples. I tried product with all >three dye types but the audible difference to me >seemed to be the reflective layer more than the >dye type. I had three other professional >engineers listen to the sample discs and two >reported the same results while the third >professed to not hearing a difference. > >About six months later, I tried the same test >with a different genre of music that had also >been sourced from 15ips masters and noticed the same result. > >Since then I offer silver layered CD's for the >clients playing copies with the disclaimer that >they are not considered archival quality. > >Cheers! > >Corey >Corey Bailey Audio Engineering > > >At 04:45 PM 11/9/2010, you wrote: >>It seems that Falcon hit the world with a new production facility >>in the UAE in 1998 and Bernie Grundman was using them as of 1998 >>according to what I read on Gearslutz.com. >> >>My challenge is that one of the last two MAM-A dealers here in >>Canada is switching to Falcon and has apparently switched the RCMP >>already and it is becoming most difficult to get the gold archival >>MAM-A discs here. >> >>I guess I could self-import them from Am-Dig, or even direct from >>MAM-A, but that is a lot of work and expense. >> >>Yes, I try to get most of my clients over to downloaded files or >>hard-drive delivery, but that exacerbates the problem for the few >>remaining clients who really, really want CDs of grandmother's >>wedding. >> >>Has anyone used Falcon CD-R and DVD-R blanks? What has been your impression? >> >>It seems the recordable optical media business is another >>submerging technology. <sigh> >> >>Thanks! >> >>Richard >>-- >>Richard L. Hess email: [log in to unmask] >>Aurora, Ontario, Canada (905) 713 6733 1-877-TAPE-FIX >>http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm >>Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes.