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fwiw i use taiyo for masters and listening disks. i've used MAM gold 
for archives, but in the long run, an archive optical is a data disk!



At 6:00 -0500 11/11/10, Tom Fine wrote:
>For what it's worth, I have found that blue-dye silver discs, I 
>prefer Toyo-Yuden just because I have years of good experiences 
>(successful burns, near-universal playability), seem to work best as 
>playback media. In fussy car players, in old home players, in early 
>DVD players, etc. I also have heard similar things to what Corey 
>heard in a gold MAM vs. a blue-dye T-Y, played back in a mid-90's 
>vintage Philips CD player. Played back via my Tascam CD recorder, I 
>couldn't hear any difference. I am guessing that older CD players 
>have trouble reading the gold-backed CDs and thus either more error 
>correction is going on or for some reason jitter is being induced, 
>or some other digital-realm thing is going on. My conclusion was to 
>pursue the same recommendations as Corey -- blue-dye/silver for 
>playback, gold-back for archiving (although I highly recommend a 
>maintained hard-drive archiving strategy).
>
>-- Tom Fine
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Corey Bailey" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:43 AM
>Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Falcon Optical Media
>
>
>In 2002 I was given the task of archiving some
>", 15ips music masters for a client who was very
>specific about the delivery requirements and even
>the CD burner to be used. The burner had to be
>either a certain model Plextor or an early model
>Phillips (a 2X burner). The CD media for playback
>had to be Taiyo Yuden brand cyanine (green) dye
>CD-R's. The archival media for the flattened
>files was to be Kodak gold. All of this came from
>the debate at the time that cyanine, although the
>least stable was the best sounding of the three
>available dyes and that gold-layered CD's were, in fact, the worst sounding.
>
>This prompted me to perform my own listening
>tests and indeed, I was able to detect a slight
>difference between a gold-layered CD-R and a
>silver layered one. The gold-layered CD-R sounded
>a bit harsher in the mid range to me than the
>silver layered samples. I tried product with all
>three dye types but the audible difference to me
>seemed to be the reflective layer more than the
>dye type. I had three other professional
>engineers listen to the sample discs and two
>reported the same results while the third
>professed to not hearing a difference.
>
>About six months later, I tried the same test
>with a different genre of music that had also
>been sourced from 15ips masters and noticed the same result.
>
>Since then I offer silver layered CD's for the
>clients playing copies with the disclaimer that
>they are not considered archival quality.
>
>Cheers!
>
>Corey
>Corey Bailey Audio Engineering
>
>
>At 04:45 PM 11/9/2010, you wrote:
>>It seems that Falcon hit the world with a new production facility 
>>in the UAE in 1998 and Bernie Grundman was using them as of 1998 
>>according to what I read on Gearslutz.com.
>>
>>My challenge is that one of the last two MAM-A dealers here in 
>>Canada is switching to Falcon and has apparently switched the RCMP 
>>already and it is becoming most difficult to get the gold archival 
>>MAM-A discs here.
>>
>>I guess I could self-import them from Am-Dig, or even direct from 
>>MAM-A, but that is a lot of work and expense.
>>
>>Yes, I try to get most of my clients over to downloaded files or 
>>hard-drive delivery, but that exacerbates the problem for the few 
>>remaining clients who really, really want CDs of grandmother's 
>>wedding.
>>
>>Has anyone used Falcon CD-R and DVD-R blanks? What has been your impression?
>>
>>It seems the recordable optical media business is another 
>>submerging technology. <sigh>
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Richard
>>--
>>Richard L. Hess                   email: [log in to unmask]
>>Aurora, Ontario, Canada           (905) 713 6733     1-877-TAPE-FIX
>>http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm
>>Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes.