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I want to thank everyone for their help.  With luck I will visit the Lincoln 
Center for the Performing Arts Library tomorrow.  Again thanks.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mohsen Mohammadi" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] How did the recording companies inform the various 
retail outlets about what ethnic recordings they had for sale.


> In 1906, the Gramophone and Typewriter published the first catalogue of 
> Persian records in Persian/French. As far as I know it's been reprinted 
> twice as facsimiled edition, I could scan and send it to you if it helps. 
> And here is the cover of "The Catalogue of the Caucasian and Persian 
> records" in February 1909.
>
> http://www.russian-records.com/details.php?image_id=3565
>
> (I doubt that it has any Persian record but a few records in Persian 
> performed by the Caucasian musicians, it must have been called Persian 
> because of the historical connection, even decades after Russia took over 
> the Northern Persia)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Pekka Gronow
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 8:06 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] How did the recording companies inform the various 
> retail outlets about what ethnic recordings they had for sale.
>
> Here's some additional data. At least since the early 1910, major record
> companies regularly issued
> a) for dealers, separate annual numerical lists of "domestic" and 
> "foreign"
> (read ethnic) recordings, in the case of Columbia, D and M for domestic, E
> and F for ethnic. These thick catalogues listed ALL records currently in
> stock.
> b) for customers, regular (annual?) catalogues for specific customer 
> groups,
> such as Finnish-Americans, Italian-Americans, and of course "race" and 
> "old
> time music". "Victor Italian Records"
> c) for same, regular (monthly) newsletters of "New Victor Italian Records
> for September 1929, etc"
> e) regular advertisements in the press, including the foreign-language
> press. Just an example: for regular ads of new Finnish-American issues,
> check "New Yorkin Uutiset", "Raivaaja" (Fitchburg, mass) and "Tyomies"
> (Superior, Wis)
>
> When specialist "ethic" record companies appeared, especially in the 
> 1940s,
> they adopted similar policies, so somewhere there must be a collection of
> catalogues and newsletters for Standard, Balkan, Continental, Ortophonic
> etc. Dick has already listed some libraries where SOME catalogues can be
> found, many must be totally lost. or in private collections. The original
> compenies dont have them. Have fun tracing them!
>
> Pekka
>
> 2011/9/25 Dick Spottswood <[log in to unmask]>
>
>> Doubt of you'll find catalogs on line, and sorry not to have time for
>> extended discussions of topics your questions raise.  Have a look at
>> Ethnic recordings in America (Library of Congress, 1982)  You'll find
>> catalogs at LC, NYPL and UC Santa Barbara.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [ARSCLIST] How did the recording companies inform the various retail
>> outlets about what ethnic recordings they had for sale.
>>
>> Eric Byron
>> to:
>> ARSCLIST
>> 09/25/2011 01:34 PM
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> I have been trying to figure out how the recording companies informed the
>> various retail outlets about what ethnic recordings they had for sale.  I
>> assume that at least by the 1920s companies, such as Victor and Columbia,
>> had catalogues similar to the ones that they issued for their regular
>> recordings. In fact, the 1923 Catalogue of Victor Records suggests that 
>> if
>>
>> one wants more information on their Hebrew and Italian recordings they
>> should look at the Hebrew Catalogue and Italian Catalogue. I have looked
>> for
>> these catalogues online, but I have not found anything.
>>
>>
>>
>> My questions include the following:
>>
>>
>>
>> How did the companies inform the retail outlets about what they had for
>> sale?
>>
>> If they issued catalogues for the various ethnic groups, for which groups
>> did they issue the catalogues?
>>
>> When did they start issuing catalogues for anybody and for whom?
>>
>>
>>
>> Most importantly, is it possible to get an ethnic catalogue, if such a
>> thing
>> existed, from you?
>>
>>
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric Byron
>>
>