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Yep, too much multitasking, for sure!  (I think I got the examples mashed
up in my head).

D.

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Diane,
>
> What is the "resource" in this case?
>
> My assumption (admittedly, without bothering to look at CUL's
> example!) was that we were talking about:
>
> <http://example.org/1>
>  a <skos:Concept>;
>  <skos:prefLabel> "Foo--Bar--Criticism";
>  <dcterms:hasPart> <http://example.org/2>, <http://example.org/3>,
> <http://example.org/4> .
>
> <http://example.org/2>
>  a <skos:Concept>
>  <skos:prefLabel> "Foo".
>
> etc.
>
> So the relationship would be <skos:Concept> <dcterms:hasPart>
> <skos:Concept>.  The inverse would also be true, of course, but I
> imagine it would generally be left unsaid.
>
> I'm not sure I actually like this, mind you, but it's
> "approachability" is hard to ignore.
>
> -Ross.
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Diane Hillmann <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > Ross:
> > My question about the approach using dcterms:hasPart would be whether the
> > 'hasPart' refers to the resource being described or to the heading
> > relationships.  Normally the DC one-to-one principle would come into play
> > here (http://wiki.dublincore.org/index.php/Glossary/One-to-One_Principle
> ),
> > given that the heading is likely to be a separate resource.  Unless I've
> > missed something, of course ...
> > Diane
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Owen,
> >>
> >> Similarly, I minted my own property for dealing with coordination in
> >> lcsubjects.org (http://LCSubjects.org/vocab/1#coordinates).  I opted
> >> for an RDF container (in the case of lcsubjects.org, a Seq) over a
> >> collection simply because I couldn't be assured that I actually know,
> >> upfront, all of the concepts being coordinated.  This is also one of
> >> my fundamental problems with coordination in MADS (although, like you,
> >> I also don't feel like I *get* MADS, which I'm not sure what that says
> >> about MADS or us).
> >>
> >> Anyway, here's an example:
> >>
> >> http://lcsubjects.org/subjects/sh99014751#concept
> >>
> >> There is RDFa in there and there are links to RDF/XML, ntriples and
> >> RDF/JSON.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I think it's worthwhile to figure out how coordination could
> >> work without the overhead of MADS.  CUL's approach (dcterms:hasPart)
> >> is certainly interesting.
> >>
> >> -Ross.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Ford, Kevin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> > Dear Owen,
> >> >
> >> > Can you please provide examples to support the claim?
> >> >
> >> > These work for me:
> >> >
> >> > "http://id.loc.gov/authorities/label/Science--Study and teaching"
> >> > (Escaped:
> >> > http://id.loc.gov/authorities/label/Science--Study%20and%20teaching )
> >> > NB: The "t" in teaching is lowercase.
> >> >
> >> > "http://id.loc.gov/authorities/label/Study and teaching"
> >> > ( Escaped: http://id.loc.gov/authorities/label/Study%20and%20teaching)
> >> >
> >> > http://id.loc.gov/authorities/label/Science--Methodology
> >> >
> >> > http://id.loc.gov/authorities/label/Logic
> >> >
> >> > Bonus:
> >> > "http://id.loc.gov/authorities/label/Popper, Karl R. (Karl Raimund),
> >> > 1902-1994"
> >> > ( Escaped:
> >> >
> http://id.loc.gov/authorities/label/Popper%2C%20Karl%20R.%20(Karl%20Raimund)%2C%201902-1994
> >> > )
> >> >
> >> > Some of labels above were taken from your email; some were taken from
> >> > the URL you shared.
> >> >
> >> > Cordially,
> >> >
> >> > Kevin
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Authorities and Vocabularies Service Discussion List
> >> >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Owen Stephens
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 6:16 PM
> >> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >> Subject: Re: [ID.LOC.GOV] Linking LCSH
> >> >>
> >> >> I should have said - not possible via a machine based web interface.
> >> >> You could get the bulk metadata and query locally. However, given a
> >> >> known label the recommended syntax:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://id.loc.gov/authorities/label/{term}
> >> >>
> >> >> gave (from memory) only one result - no option to differentiate and
> get
> >> >> the URI for either the 'topical term' of the 'general subdivision'
> >> >> (whichever was required) where they shared a label.
> >> >>
> >> >> Actually I note that this lookup syntax seems broken at the moment?
> >> >>
> >> >> Owen
> >> >>
> >> >> Owen Stephens
> >> >> Owen Stephens Consulting
> >> >> Web: http://www.ostephens.com
> >> >> Email: [log in to unmask]
> >> >> Telephone: 0121 288 6936
> >> >>
> >> >> On 8 Nov 2011, at 22:35, Karen Coyle wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Quoting Owen Stephens <[log in to unmask]>:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Owen, thanks. It's interesting that your solution of separating the
> >> >> pre-coordinated "facets" is what worked best...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > As for the statement below, I'm intrigued but not quite sure why
> this
> >> >> wasn't possible. Could you elaborate? Thanks, kc
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> ** An aside - it isn't (or at least, wasn't) possible to search
> for
> >> >> 'topical terms' separate to 'general subdivisions' so for headings
> like
> >> >> 'Science' or 'Research' this creates a problem - it would be really
> >> >> useful to be able to search for topical terms separate to general
> >> >> subdivisions in order to identfy the correct URI
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Owen Stephens
> >> >> >> Owen Stephens Consulting
> >> >> >> Web: http://www.ostephens.com
> >> >> >> Email: [log in to unmask]
> >> >> >> Telephone: 0121 288 6936
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Karen Coyle
> >> >> > [log in to unmask] http://kcoyle.net
> >> >> > ph: 1-510-540-7596
> >> >> > m: 1-510-435-8234
> >> >> > skype: kcoylenet
> >> >
> >
> >
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