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Hi Corey:

Nope, never heard of this, but I bet it works well for film or tape. I have my doubts about grooved 
disks because a lot of the most annoying stuff there is pops and ticks, although reduced background 
whoosh is a good thing, too.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Corey Bailey" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:30 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Straight Line Tracking was Stanton Turntable reviews....anyone?


> Hi Tom,
>
> Might you be referring to a process known here on the Left coast as "Swamping"?
>
> This is a process where a mono signal is bussed to two channels. One channel is the master buss 
> and it is played straight through. The "split" of the mono signal is compressed 20 dB or so 
> (Stepped on!), brought back into the console and mixed out of phase with the original signal. The 
> heavy compression of the "split" tends to push the program into the background noise so when the 
> two are combined, the majority of the background gets canceled. The effectiveness depends on the 
> phase accuracy of the limiter (or compressor or leveling amp, depending on what you use.) and the 
> amount of compression used. This was a favorite trick of TV mixers back in the days of Mono TV. I 
> learned of the process in the early 70's from a mixer by the name of Val Valentine who came out of 
> the days of mixing to Mono. I've used the process successfully for everything from cleaning up 
> production sound for a feature film mix to Forensics. For me, Swamping works best in the analog 
> domain although you can get a good idea of how it works by applying the technique using any DAW.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Corey
> Corey Bailey Audio Engineering
>
>
> On 12/21/2011 4:04 AM, Tom Fine wrote:
>> <SNIP> I think there is another method where you can put one channel out of phase and mix it to a 
>> level that cancels noise the most, but I haven't tried this and don't remember the details.
>>
>> One man's opinions, but based on years of listening to and transferring mono sources.
>>
>> -- Tom Fine
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Cox" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 5:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Straight Line Tracking was Stanton Turntable reviews....anyone?
>>
>>
>>> On 20/12/2011, Richard L. Hess wrote:
>>>
>>>> Because it's a mono record?
>>>>
>>>> On 2011-12-20 10:55 AM, Don Cox wrote:
>>>>> Yes, but why would anyone want to create a mono sum of the signals?
>>>>
>>> Since I first bought a stereo record player, I have always listened to
>>> mono records in stereo. There never seemed to be any improvement in the
>>> sound when the channels are mixed.
>>>
>>> And it is much easier for the brain to disregard surface noise when the
>>> noise is spread across the whole width from speaker to speaker and the
>>> music is located in the centre.
>>>
>>> In principle, mixing the channels should reduce the noise by about one decibel
>>> (the noise in stereo will be 1.414 times the noise in mono), but the
>>> disadvantage of losing spatial separation makes this hardly worth while.
>>>
>>> In my opinion.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> -- 
>>> Don Cox
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>
>>
>