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Very interesting article and true to U. S. history of whenever it can be done cheaper, move right ahead -- never mind the quality considerations. I recall spending a day tracking the early Williams lifting orchestrations directly out of Tchaikovsky scores without any changes whatsoever. Although Williams was clever, he used some of the less widely-known works. Where would Williams be today without poor Pyotr Ilyich? 

Alex McGehee

On Dec 17, 2011, at 2:54 AM, Tom Fine wrote:

> Actually, I was just talking about this with a coworker yesterday. She is 24 years old, born long after the original Star Wars trilogy, Close Encounters, Jaws, etc. The context was the Wall Street Journal article about John Williams and the changing world of film music:
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203893404577098730827733806.html
> 
> I mentioned that not all Williams scores are stereotypical Hollywood bombast, for instance Close Encounters. She had never heard of that movie nor seen it. That one I do remember seeing in the theater, as a young kid. Didn't really understand it then but subsequently bought it on VHS and then DVD and it's one of my favorites. I was too young to be allowed to see Jaws when it came out but I love that movie. Meanwhile, my colleague knows of Jaws only for the iconic "duh-dump" sound. Our boss, who was chuckling at the whole conversation, is 65 years old and actually remembers Hedy Lamarr being current in the news when he was young. I'm sure he's seen all the Mel Brooks movies too!
> 
> Time passes, entertainment evolves, cultural references change. If you asked me about something having to do with a video game, I'd be as clueless as about old movies (perhaps more so because I've never played a video game but have seen a few old movies, although they are not my taste).
> 
> -- Tom Fine
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clark Johnsen" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 12:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Hedy Lamarr, a mother of WiFi!
> 
> 
>> Heck, there are probably people born after Star Wars and Close Encounters
>> came out (1977).
>> 
>> c
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Robert Cham <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>>> So, you must not remember Brook's "Silent Movie".  The only audible line
>>> in the movie was spoken by Marcel Marceau.  We took our infant son with us
>>> when it first came out.  He thought that all the people were laughing for
>>> his benefit and chortled right along.
>>> 
>>> So Tom, you out of diapers yet?
>>> 
>>> Bob Cham
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yeah, that's old. 1974 = 37 years ago. That's like talking about silent
>>>> movies in the mid-1960's. No offense to you geezers ... ;) (running and
>>>> ducking).
>>>> 
>>>> -- Tom Fine
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou Houck" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 6:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Hedy Lamarr, a mother of WiFi!
>>>> 
>>>> It's not an old movie, it was just released a few years ago...1974.
>>>>> Just when I was thinking I wasn't such an old guy....DANG.
>>>>> Now where did I leave that crank for my Victrola?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lou Houck
>>>>> Rollin' Recording
>>>>> Boerne, TX
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Fine
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 4:49 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Hedy Lamarr, a mother of WiFi!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Woops. I've only seen that once. Before my time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- Tom Fine
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Phillips" <
>>>>> [log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 5:44 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Hedy Lamarr, a mother of WiFi!
>>>>> 
>>>>> The comic reference was to the movie 'Blazing Saddles'....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Scott Phillips
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> **wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Huh? Not sure I get the joke, or was it a joke? See articles and patent
>>>>>>> linked.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hedy in the article plus numerous websites, patent is under Hedy
>>>>>>> Kiesler
>>>>>>> Markey.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> By the way, the once-controversial film "Ekstase" is available at
>>>>>>> Archive.org:
>>>>>>> http://www.archive.org/****details/Ekstase1933<http://www.archive.org/**details/Ekstase1933>
>>>>>>> <http://**www.archive.org/details/**Ekstase1933<http://www.archive.org/details/Ekstase1933>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There is some sourced material on Lamarr and spread-spectrum
>>>>>>> technology in
>>>>>>> the Whacky-Packia entry for her:
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Hedy_Lamarr<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Hedy_Lamarr>
>>>>>>> <http://en.**wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedy_Lamarr<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedy_Lamarr>
>>>>>>> **>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- Tom Fine
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Durenberger" <
>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 3:56 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Hedy Lamarr, a mother of WiFi!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That's HEDLEY!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mark Durenberger
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------****--------------------
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Hedy Lamarr, a mother of WiFi!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Scott Phillips
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Bob Cham
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>>> Houston
>>>