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If I really want a RSD record,I'll buy it on eBay,the stores rarely have the ones I want.If you ask me there are too damn many of these RSD records pressed,most of them are just cashing in,and are stuff nobody really wants in the first place.

For the last five or six years,at least,in has been common practice to include a free CD copy of an album,when you buy the Lp version.

Roger

 



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 From: Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] 
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Nuveau Vinylistas -- has record collecting jumped the shark?
 
Hi Cary:

By the way, a huge mainstream media coverage from Friday:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505270_162-57417635/record-store-day-breathing-new-life-into-vinyl/

Despite my reservations, today's weather was too nice not to travel 15 miles to Gerosa Records over in CT, arrived 15 minutes before the doors opened, and was #10 in line (and the line didn't get much bigger than double that). I  fit right in to the RSD crowd there -- it was all middle-aged dudes, likely swarming in to buy the kids' favorites and resell them on eBay immediately for big profit. So of course the Black Keys and Phish stuff sold right out. But almost nothing else was in short supply. I found stuff I hadn't even seen on the RSD website. I left happy, although the store hadn't even ordered the Little Richard red-vinyl LP, which was the one thing I had wanted in advance.

Regarding your comment about classic jazz, it depends on how classic you mean. There are now a fair number of 1950's and 60's jazz titles reissued on vinyl, everyone who plays in vinyl is playing in the jazz genre (because middle aged guys have money and will spend it on jazz LPs). I noticed EMI is now reissuing Blue Note titles with a CD included in the package. Rhino has some Atlantic jazz out on vinyl and Sony Legacy has some Columbia titles out. It's not a huge selection, but it's the titles the audiophiles and jazz-as-sound-experience fans want. There is now quite a bit of rock, both new and reissued, on vinyl. I noticed that last year, Gerosa had all the new-issue rock vinyl in one bin. Now, they have a whole row of bins dedicated to new-issue rock, soul, dance/hip-hop and pop
vinyl, with alphabetical separators like in the old days. There weren't a lot of copies of any title, so that's an indication of the variety now available.

Back to jazz, I don't see any advantage or reason to issue vinyl versions of stuff from the pre-LP days. Those collections seem to seel best as CD compilations or sets, with tasteful sonic cleanup and skilled transfers being the hallmarks of the best products (ie Mosaic). Others may disagree. There seems to be a wish among a very small group of people (maybe all of them are on this list) for reissue 78RPM records. I would say, if metal parts exist (and you can plate from those metal parts without ruining them) and you could press on new vinyl compounds allowing for light tracking and low surface noise, that would be great. But if it's a matter of dubbing to a new master, why add another generation of surface noise? Keep in mind that almost no mainstream phono preamp has any facilities
to play non-RIAA curves, so the niche for these products is probably too small for any sensible profit-desiring company to bother.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- From: "Cary Ginell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Nuveau Vinylistas -- has record collecting jumped the shark?


> From what I've seen in local record stores, the vinyl fetish is limited to contemporary
> rock/hip-hop groups and reissues of classic '50s and '60s jazz LPs (sanctioned ones on major labels
> like Blute Note and Riverside). I don't think many of those who purchase these items have that much
> interest in digging as deeply as we have into the history of recordings.

I have seen nothing in the way of new compilations of material on vinyl or reissues of classic jazz,
Broadway, country, or even generic pop. The Record Store Day releases, aside from the occasional
"novelty" issue of something on 78 (the Beach Boys' 78 of "Good Vibrations" last year comes to
mind), are still of little interest to ARSCers - at least from a West Coast perspective.

Cary Ginell


> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:46:52 -0400
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Nuveau Vinylistas -- has record collecting jumped the shark?
> To: [log in to unmask]
> 
> I'm just sayin' ...
> 
> What used to be an activity of somewhat non-mainstream folks with often different tastes in music
> from the masses has become a mainstream activity of hipsters and posers. Latest proof is two
> very-mainstream media articles today:
> 
> 1.
> http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/consumer/record-store-day-vinyl-sales-a-bright-spot-for-indies/
> 
> 2.
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/19/technology/personaltech/how-to-enjoy-turntables-without-obsessing-over-them.html
> (the for-dummies guide to hipster turntable buying)
> 
> We also now see a wall-decoration/turntable:
> http://www.ionaudio.com/products/details/vertical-vinyl
> 
> On the one hand, in my opinion it is good to see vinyl in a healthy niche but, on the other hand,
> growth from fickle trend-sters is not good growth because it is inevitable "boom-splat" growth.
> Will
> the annoying bandwagon passengers chase away the hardcore audience for vinyl? We've seen prices
> for
> used LPs rise for some titles recently. Is a "vinyl bubble" in the offing?