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Regarding Proposal No. 2012-04: New data elements in the MARC 21 Authority Format for RDA *Other Designation Associated with the Person* and *Title of the Person:* * * I think a good case can be made for including subfields to record the start and finish date for such a designation: e.;g. for a ruler (queen, king, count). While perhaps a saint is always a saint, it could be useful to have the date of canonization recorded -- indeed, to record successive titles on the way to sainthood, and the dates when they apply, will help with problems of establishing which Venerable/Blessed/Saint Peter; likewise cases where a marquis becomes a duke, and so on. Subfields f (start date) and g (end date) seem appropriate. Hal Cain Melbourne, Australia [log in to unmask] On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:36 AM, account for net dev and marc <[log in to unmask] > wrote: > Proposal 2012-02: Identifying Titles Related to the Entity Represented by > the Authority Record in the MARC 21 Authority Format > (http://www.loc.gov/marc/marbi/2012/2012-02.html) > > Proposal 2012-03: Data Provenance in the MARC 21 Bibliographic Format > (http://www.loc.gov/marc/marbi/2012/2012-03.html) > > Proposal 2012-04: New data elements in the MARC 21 Authority Format for > Other Designation Associated with the Person and Title of the Person > (http://www.loc.gov/marc/marbi/2012/2012-04.html) > > Proposal 2012-05: Making the 250 Field Repeatable in the MARC 21 > Bibliographic Format > (http://www.loc.gov/marc/marbi/2012/2012-05.html) > > Proposal 2012-06: Defining Subfield $c (Qualifying information) in Field > 028 (Publisher Number) in the MARC 21 Bibliographic Format > (http://www.loc.gov/marc/marbi/2012/2012-06.html) > > Proposal 2012-07: Defining New Code for Vocal Score in Field 008/20 > (Format of music) in the MARC 21 Bibliographic Format > (http://www.loc.gov/marc/marbi/2012/2012-07.html) > > Discussion Paper 2012-05: Recording Creator/Contributor Group > Categorizations of Works, Expressions, and Persons in the MARC 21 > Bibliographic and Authority Formats > (http://www.loc.gov/marc/marbi/2012/2012-dp05.html) > > > The MARBI agenda and remaining papers will be posted shortly. > > > ----------------------------------------------- > Network Development and MARC Standards Office > 101 Independence Ave., S.E. > Washington, DC 20540-4402 U.S.A. > TEL: +1-202-707-6237 > FAX: +1-202-707-0115 > NET: [log in to unmask] > ----------------------------------------------- >