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From: Bill Schurk <[log in to unmask]> > I always liked the attitude of Sophie Tucker who eternally decried herself > as the "last of the red hot mamas". Bill Schurk And during her later years her two record companies, Decca and Mercury, kept her records in print, paid her royalties, and she personally sold copies of them at all her shows. And you couldn't get out of the club or theater without her autographing them in blue pencil!!! While she was living and could storm into their offices they didn't DARE delete her records!! Mike Biel [log in to unmask] ________________________________ From: Michael Biel <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Hang it up, already One of the important aspects of copyright in recent discussions is that the performers are often not recipients of income from their early recordings because the companies own their copyrights and 1) don't have contracts with the performers which REQUIRE royalties, so they don't pay any, or 2) don't have the recordings in print anyway, and 3) refuse to release or sell the copyrights to the performers so that they can release and sell them THEMSELVES to get some income. In other words, some of them are out there performing because they like to and will not retire till they die, OR they are out there because they need some income because their record companies are starving them. Mike Biel [log in to unmask] -------- Original Message -------- Carl Pultz wrote: > I'm glad he still has a strong following today, however uneven some of his recorded work has been. Recordings are only one aspect of a musician's work; for many not adequately representative. Unfortunately, they are accorded too much importance in many cases, as understandable as that is. Recordings remind me of the Monty Python animation, where archeologists dig up a big toe. "From this fragment, we have reconstructed the entire prehistoric creature." The toe becomes the nose of a mastodon. For Neil Young, Inc., there might be little choice but to release recordings. It becomes a business necessity. He's responsible for many people's incomes. Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Hang it up, already From: Aaron Levinson <[log in to unmask]> Date: Fri, June 01, 2012 11:48 am To: [log in to unmask] I think it's worth reminding folks of one salient point here Tom was talking about septuagenarians in ROCK bands. He was specifically decrying the depressing spectacle of one- way splits (ouch) and arthritic windmills in the context of people who had penned songs with titles like "My Generation" and other anthems of youth culture. I don't believe he was for a second disparaging the performances of people like the two erstwhile physicians,(Doc Watson or Dr. John) mentioned in prior exchanges or Ella or any other person that is simply eligible for AARP Membership. His comment was specific to those artist who are not gracefully accepting the inevitable passage of time.