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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Cinerama Screenings (was archiving slide-tape
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From: Roderic G Stephens <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tue, August 07, 2012 2:02 pm
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> Having seen "This is Cinerama" at the original Cinerama theater
> in Los Angeles as a young man, I immediately ran out and bought
> the LP.  My only regret is that it wasn't released in stereo,
> but the sound is impressive none the less.

I think there was a later stereo reissue.  When I saw it in Dayton a few
years ago the scene I was waiting for was the early one filmed in an
Italian church with the choir entering from behind the camera. I was
flabbergasted to find that the audio was so obviously fake.

I really would like to see Russian Adventure.  I got the LP a few months
ago.  Bing did the narration on the American version -- I understand
that the original Soviet version is occasionally shown in Moscow in real

Mike Biel [log in to unmask]

--- On Tue, 8/7/12, Cary Ginell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

From: Cary Ginell <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Cinerama Screenings (was archiving slide-tape
shows, was voca-film technology)
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Tuesday, August 7, 2012, 10:47 AM

According to their website, the Cinerama Dome will be celebrating the
60th anniversary of Cinerama this fall. I'm hoping to see "Windjammer,"
which I have never seen before. I have seen "How the West Was Won" at
the theater and it was spectacular.
Cary Ginell
2012 marks the 60th Anniversary of Cinerama, and plans are now being
finalized for the biggest, most complete Cinerama festival of the last
50 years. In September, The Cinerama Dome will present all five of the
1950's Cinerama travelogues, (This Is Cinerama, Cinerama Holiday (1955),
Seven Wonders of the World (1956), Search for Paradise (1957), South
Seas Adventure (1958)) plus Windjammer (1958) which was filmed in the
rival CineMiracle process, Cinerama's Russian Adventure (1966), HOW THE
WEST WAS WON and Cinerama oddities including a 3 strip Renault
automobile commercial which played with HOW THE WEST WAS WON in France.
More information will be available later this year through the ArcLight
Cinemas website: . It has been 49 years since The
Cinerama Dome showed its first film, and yet, it is still "the only
theatre of its kind in the world!" 

> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 07:31:47 -1000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Cinerama Screenings (was archiving slide-tape shows, was voca-film technology)
> To: [log in to unmask]
> If you get a chance to see 2001: A Space Odyssey in Cinerama on 
> September 28th, do so. When I saw it in NYC when it was first released 
> in 1968 that's how I saw it. I was mightily impressed!
> Malcolm
> *******
> On 8/7/2012 6:00 AM, Scott D. Smith wrote:
> > OK, this topic is getting a bit far afield now, but since Mike started 
> > it it, I figured I might as well follow up...
> >
> > For those interested in Cinerama, the Arclight Theaters in Hollywood 
> > will be presenting another run of all the Cinerama titles (some with 
> > new prints), running from September 28th to October 4th. See: 
> >
> >
> > If you've never had the opportunity to view these films in their 
> > original format, you don't want to miss this. While some of the titles 
> > will unfortunately have to rely on digital projection (in 4K, I hope), 
> > many will be projected in the original Cinerama three-projector film 
> > format. Although there are still Cinerama system in Seattle and 
> > Moscow, it is highly unlikely that all of these titles will be 
> > presented together at showing anytime in the near future, so see 'em 
> > now while you can.
> >
> > FYI: The screenings that Mike alludes to were done by John Harvey at 
> > the New Neon Cinema, which had been extensively remodeled for the run. 
> > What started out as a special one month run ended up going for 3 1/2 
> > years before they finally had to shut it down! (BTW: The print of "How 
> > the West Was Won" was an original Technicolor IB print, and was not 
> > faded in the least. Some of the other titles though, such as "Roman 
> > Holiday", were unfortunately Eastman color prints, which had gone 
> > severely magenta).
> >
> > It was John who was responsible for putting Cinerama back on the 
> > screen, and is owed a huge debt of gratitude by the entire film 
> > community. When I first met John, he had assembled full Cinerama 
> > system in the living room of his home in Dayton, where we were treated 
> > to a private screening of "How the West Was Won" (with all three 
> > projectors run single-handedly by John)! While I had seen the film in 
> > it's original Chicago run, I was really too young to appreciate it (or 
> > even remember it, for that matter...) It was stunning.
> >
> > Fortunately, I was not the only one who was enthralled to see the 
> > original presentation of the film, and soon John had a steady stream 
> > of visitors arriving at his door in Dayton, which prompted him to 
> > mount a special run at the New Neon theater (with lots of assistance 
> > from Larry Smith). Sadly, John has suffered from a series of strokes, 
> > which has severely curtailed his activities. A huge loss, IMHO.
> >
> > For those who are interested in more information on Cinerama, see: 
> > Martin Hart's excellent site 
> > at:, along with 
> > Thomas Hauerslev's site: 
> > These two 
> > guys have assembled a massive amount of material-you could spend days 
> > on their sites.
> >
> > RE: 30 FPS Todd-AO, we have the original Norelco projectors (along 
> > with the curved gates), just no venue to set them up with a curved 
> > screen!
> >
> > Sorry to get so far astray on this thread, but thought it might be of 
> > interest to some...
> >
> > --Scott
> >
> > Scott D. Smith CAS
> > Chicago Audio Works, Inc.
> >
> > On 8/6/2012 6:21 PM, Michael Biel wrote:
> >> About 10 to 15 years ago there was a theater in Dayton, Ohio which had a
> >> local collector re-do the theater for Cinerama, and they had weekly
> >> showings using original prints. Unfortunately most were not Technicolor
> >> so have faded to magenta. But it was still great to be able to have
> >> Leah experience it. There are about four or five theaters that can still
> >> show it including one in Seattle, and Moscow, Russia, and I understand
> >> that the one in London does not use original equipment. Now, if only
> >> there was some place to see original curved-negative, 30 fps Todd-AO.
> >>
> >> Mike Biel [log in to unmask]
> >>
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> >> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] archiving slide-tape shows (was voca-film
> >> technology)
> >> From: "Randy A. Riddle" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Date: Mon, August 06, 2012 6:10 pm
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Richard L. Hess
> >> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The point I think I was originally trying to make was that properly
> >>> archiving one of these shows is very difficult to retain full impact.
> >> Any kind of audio-visual preservation is only giving the viewer and
> >> listener and approximation of what the original experience of the
> >> media was like.
> >>
> >> With film, it's really impractical to set up a Cinerama system without
> >> a great deal of basic funding and maintenance. Even a chemical or
> >> digital based restoration of an old film isn't going to have the same
> >> look and feel of original nitrate or Technicolor elements. It's can
> >> be a compromise in some cases to save something and make it available
> >> for later researchers versus not having it in a viewable form at all.
> >>
> >> Doing a plan for a "proof of concept" for one of these multimedia
> >> slide shows would make an interesting journal article or presentation
> >> that might look at the relative costs, advantages and disadvantages of
> >> doing it through a 4K or 6K master versus a computer controlled
> >> version using multiple high-def projectors and some approaches with
> >> the major audio-track formats used to control the systems.
> >>
> >> rand
> >>
> >