You can already record other administrative divisions in 370 $f as
"Other associated place", relating to RDA 11.3.1, Place Associated with
the Corporate Body (we're establishing place names as jurisdictions,  or
notional jurisdictions, so Chapter 11 also applies). says "A place associated with the corporate body is a
significant location associated with a corporate body (e.g., location of
a conference, etc., location of the headquarters of an organization)."
Note the "e.g.", indicating that those are only examples.
We've been doing this consistently in the RDA we've created or places
below the country level; see for example nb2012015752:
151   $a West Somerton (England)
368   $b Village
370   $c England $f Norfolk, England
where Norfolk is the county in which the village is located.
So it's possible to record several elements relating to the place as
jurisdiction, as discrete data elements.


Richard Moore 

Authority Control Team Manager 

The British Library


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From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nancy Sack
Sent: 13 August 2012 00:50
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] More RDA change proposals for consideration at
the Nov. 2012 JSC meeting

Hi, Kathy,

I have a comment about part 4 of the 6JSC/ALA/19 proposal: Proposed
Revision of RDA 16.2.2 (Preferred Name for the Place). Adding the name
of the first-level administrative division before the name of the
country in the preferred name for a place would split existing files
unless an enormous amount of file maintenance were undertaken. Making
the instruction optional would pretty much ensure that split files are
perpetuated. Since the concept of "heading" is destined to become
obsolete anyway, I think it makes more sense to record the first-level
administrative division in a 37X field of the authority record (perhaps
a new subfield in the 370 could be defined?). In a post-MARC,
linked-data catalog-of-the-future, recording the first-level
administrative division without changing the preferred form of the place
name would help public services librarians (and everyone else) identify
geographic locations and would not require updates to (tens of thousands
of) existing authority and bibliographic records.

Feel free to reword the comment as you wish and to forward or not as you
see fit. I'd be interested in knowing what other PCC members think.



On 8/10/2012 7:06 AM, Kathy Glennan wrote:



	CC:DA will need to respond to these proposals in advance of the
November JSC meeting. While no specific deadlines have yet been
established for CC:DA feedback, I suspect comments will be due no later
than the end of September. I would be happy to forward any comments from
PCC members for consideration. 



	Please send your comments directly to me and not to the PCC
list; I will contribute them to the CC:DA wiki. If you have an
opportunity to comment on these papers through multiple CC:DA liaisons
or voting members, please select just one of us to contribute on your


	Please contact me if you have any questions. I look forward to
hearing your thoughts!



	Kathy Glennan

	PCC liaison to CC:DA

	Head, Special Resources Cataloging / Music Cataloger 

	University of Maryland 

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University of Hawaii at Manoa
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Honolulu, HI 96822
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