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Why would you ever do this rather than a soak/brush/vacuum clean?

The only thing I've ever encountered that wouldn't come off with a VPI cleaning or two was what 
appeared to be tarballs or glue residue on a record. I finally had to gently apply isoprop to the 
tarballs and gently wipe them off in a curled-up motion once they got less sticky. I doubt covering 
the record in a sticky substance would have lifted those tarballs, and they might have come from 
just such an ill-convceived "cleaning method" gone wrong.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Hamilton" <[log in to unmask]>
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I recommend one try it first only on sides which are quite horrendous
for their content / presentation, as well as degree of debris
covering them, in order to get the technique sorted.   It's best to
have a dedicated tt that is broken, say, so that you can use it for
all your glue-cleaning.   (Too bad it doesn't require "hot glue" -
hehe).   The stuff in Tite Bond, anyway, doesn't adhere, once dry, to
the pvc.   But it _does_ adhere to almost everything else.   I tried
it on a little Wagner a while back and have the glue doughnut, still,
from the perfect pull - which was my sole effort at this, to date.
The record is fine and clean as a whistle, and the doughnut's mirror-
like image of the grooves looks dern near playable, had I a
bifurcated stylus in my kit.  (Is that _all_ I'd need for playing
back a "father?" - not that this would be a normal sort of father -
more like a son of a disc..).

Andrew





On Sep 8, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Tom Fine wrote:

> This is insane, but it's your records, not mine. I would _NEVER_ do  this!
>
> -- Tom Fine
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kulp"  <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 1:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Details on vinyl to digital re-mastering
>
>
> http://www.cratekings.com/clean-records-with-wood-glue-aka-the- vinyl-facelift/
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDiF-eVOgoI
> http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99837
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Marie O'Connell <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 11:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Details on vinyl to digital re-mastering
>
> I fail to see how a glue can clean records? Please explain.
>
> Marie
>
> On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Roger Kulp <[log in to unmask]>  wrote:
>
>> The best,and cheapest way to clean records,is with good old  elmer's glue.
>>
>> Roger
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: H D Goldman <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2012 4:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Details on vinyl to digital re-mastering
>>
>> What I fail to understand is why disc phonograph records are  treated so
>> differently from other common things we clean. Most of us do not  re-use
>> the bath water when washing our dishes, cleaning our clothes,  taking a
>> bath, or brushing our teeth, so why is it so good for cleaning disc
>> recordings?
>>
>> Traces of mold or mildew once introduced to the bath have the  potential to
>> contaminate every succeeding disc. Thoroughly cleaned discs do not  require
>> a "treatment" for static though some surfaces seem more prone to  developing
>> a charge with repeated playback. In these cases & situations where  raising
>> the humidity is not possible or of limited value, the ZeroStat or  similar
>> device is helpful but costly new. I suggest looking for them at  estate
>> sales; even those with broken triggers can usually be fixed.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Duane Goldman
>>
>> On Sep 6, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Tom Fine wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Buddy:
>> >
>> > 1. I wouldn't clean a 45RPM this way. A good solution is the
>> Spin-Clean
>> record washer:
>> >
>> http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/58982/Spin-Clean- 
>> Record_Washer_System-Record_Cleaning_Machine?&banner_id=242
>> > There are many options for cleaning fluids, up to quite costly and
>> exotic. Dawn dish liquid would not be my choice. It can leave a  residue.
>> >
>> > 2. The best way to fight static is first of all don't use a cheapo
>> fabric platter mat and second don't work in too low-humidity  environment. I
>> have a humidity meter in the studio and I get static problems if  it's under
>> 50% or so, closer to 55% is better. You can also use a Zero-Stat gun:
>> >
>> http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/10413/Milty-Zerostat_3_Gun- Record_Cleaner
>> > I have an original Discwasher Zerostat that still works well and
>> does a
>> good job on all but the most badly-static-charged LP sides
>> >
>> > 3. Regarding new, unplayed vinyl, it's usually somewhat grimey
>> from the
>> factory and transit. I always clean it before playing it.
>> >
>> > 4. As for EQ, any new grooved vinyl is designed for standard RIAA
>> playback EQ. Any standard phono preamp provides RIAA eq as well as  level
>> boost, so it should be OK to interface the preamp directly to your  computer.
>> >
>> > Good luck! Making decent-sounding vinyl-to-digital transfers
>> requires
>> some careful listening and testing different methods, but when the  results
>> are good, you get the sound you like from the vinyl with the  convenience of
>> digital files.
>> >
>> > -- Tom Fine
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blue Star Music" <
>> [log in to unmask]>
>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 2:40 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Details on vinyl to digital re-mastering
>> >
>> >
>> >> Please excuse me if these questions have already been asked and
>> answered.
>> >>
>> >> I am converting 45 RPM vinyl to digital using pristine (never
>> played)
>> vinyl on a Stanton belt-drive turntable through amp/eq to computer  input.
>> Here are my questions:
>> >>
>> >> 1. I've been told to put the records on end in a soapy wash and
>> brush
>> them with the groove using a soft bristle brush. The wash is  supposed to
>> be distilled water with dish soap. Is this recommended for pristine
>> vinyl? Is there a certain brand of soap to use or stay away from (ie:
>> Dawn)?
>> >>
>> >> 2. After air drying, I've been using "Gruv-Glide" to reduce
>> static.
>> Is there something better?
>> >>
>> >> 3. Is this process all wrong?
>> >>
>> >> 4. What eq settings are recommended to bring vinyl back to life?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your input.
>> >>
>> >> BW
>> >> Buddy Weaver
>> >> San Diego, CA
>> >
>>
>> H D Goldman Lagniappe Chemicals Ltd.
>> PO Box 37066 St. Louis, MO 63141 USA
>> v/f 314 205 1388 [log in to unmask]
>>

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