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Mention of the 1944 stereo Karajan Bruckner 8th reminds me of, also 1944, also genuine stereo: Beethoven: Concerto no. 5, "Emperor" -- Walter Gieseking/Berlin Reichsender Symphony Orchestra/Arthur Rother First issued, perhaps, on Varese/Sarabande LP VC 81080. It's surely been out in many forms since. Again, genuine stereo, 1944. Perhaps for Tpm's list.... Don Tait -----Original Message----- From: Milan P Milovanovic <[log in to unmask]> To: ARSCLIST <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:19 pm Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] early stereophony How about Sten Kenton 1952. live date in Blue Note club??? I never heard or I don't own CD mentioned in link below, so I can not confirm if it is fake or re-creation, "electronically processed" (or something similar), but 1952. is early enough, I think. http://www.worldsrecords.com/pages/artists/k/kenton_stan/stan_kenton_61066.html Also here is 1944. stereo recording of Bruckner 8. Symphony, so probably we can add this to our list Tom Fine started: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIbZs2W0mnQ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clark Johnsen" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] early stereophony > The current issue of the AES Journal (July/August) has a fine article on > Stowkowski and the Evolution of Recording Techniques by Francis Rumsey. > Included are many remarks about stereo, of course. Don't know if it can be > found in the clear online. > > clark > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:04 PM, lesit <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Could the contents of the Ormandy reel be selection from a Midsummer >> Night's dream. Issued on Lp in mono only, it was also issued on a 2 track >> stereo tape which I used to own. >> >> A. Lesitsky >> [log in to unmask] >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 25, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Dennis Rooney <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >> > I found no reference to the MAR items in my archival research on >> > Szell's >> > Columbia/Epic recordings. It's entirely possible that RCA recorded >> > them. >> > There was great resistance to stereo from Fred Plaut and others. and I >> > never found any evidence of experimental binaural setups that preceded >> > the*Messiah >> > * of Dec. 1956. However, when inspecting the tapes at IMAR, I came >> > across >> > an Ormandy/PO recording (I no longer remember the repertoire) recorded >> > c1955 in 3-track, 1/4-inch format. The contents were never released. >> > >> > DDR >> > >> > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Jon Samuels <[log in to unmask] >> >wrote: >> > >> >> Tom, >> >> You're most welcome. >> >> Here's an oddity that might interest you. George Szell and the >> Cleveland >> >> Orchestra (under the name Music Appreciation Orchestra and His >> >> Symphony >> >> Orchestra) made a number of recordings for Music Appreciation Records >> >> between 1954 and 1955. As I understand it, they were actually recorded >> by >> >> Columbia Records, due to a joint arrangement between >> Book-of-the-Month-Club >> >> and Columbia House Record Club. Szell's first stereo recordings for >> >> MAR >> >> were made October 19, 20 and 21, 1955. He recorded Brahms Academic >> >> Festival Overture and Haydn Variations, Mozart Symphony No. 39, >> >> Schumann >> >> Symphony No. 4 and Stravinsky Firebird Suite. (I'm not certain the >> Brahms >> >> and Mozart were released in stereo on LP, but the Schumann and >> Stravinsky >> >> were.) Yet he didn't record in stereo for Epic/Columbia until >> >> February >> 22 >> >> and 23, 1957 for Columbia, making only mono recordings for them in >> >> 1955 >> and >> >> 1956. (Columbia's first acknowledged stereo recording was Leonard >> Bernstein >> >> conducting the New York Philharmonic-Symphony Orchestra in Handel's >> >> Messiah on December 31, 1956.) >> >> This raises some interesting questions. Did Columbia indeed record >> >> the >> >> MAR Szell recordings? If so, why did they not use their stereo >> recording >> >> capability again until December, 1956? If not, then who did? >> >> By any chance, do you know, Dennis (Rooney)? >> >> Jon Samuels >> >> >> >> --- On Tue, 9/25/12, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> >> >> From: Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> >> >> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] early stereophony >> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> >> Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2012, 6:37 AM >> >> >> >> Jon, thanks for all this information. Fascinating and educational. >> >> >> >> -- Tom Fine >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Samuels" < >> [log in to unmask] >> >> To: <[log in to unmask]> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:39 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] early stereophony >> >> >> >> >> >> Ironically, the only surviving RCA document that mentions the >> >> existence >> of >> >> binaural recording is the October 1953 Stokowski session I mentioned >> >> in >> an >> >> earlier post, which is labelled "binaural experiment". Naturally, none >> of >> >> those tapes have been located to date. >> >> >> >> Jon Samuels >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Dennis D. Rooney >> > 303 W. 66th Street, 9HE >> > New York, NY 10023 >> > 212.874.9626 >>