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  Mention of the 1944 stereo Karajan Bruckner 8th reminds me of, also 1944, also genuine stereo:

  Beethoven: Concerto no. 5, "Emperor" -- Walter Gieseking/Berlin Reichsender Symphony Orchestra/Arthur Rother

  First issued, perhaps, on Varese/Sarabande LP VC 81080. It's surely been out in many forms since. Again, genuine stereo, 1944.

  Perhaps for Tpm's list....

  Don Tait

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Milan P Milovanovic <[log in to unmask]>
To: ARSCLIST <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tue, Sep 25, 2012 2:19 pm
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] early stereophony


How about Sten Kenton 1952. live date in Blue Note club???

 I never heard or I don't own CD mentioned in link below, so I can not 
confirm if it is fake or re-creation, "electronically processed" (or 
something similar), but 1952. is early enough, I think.

http://www.worldsrecords.com/pages/artists/k/kenton_stan/stan_kenton_61066.html

Also here is 1944. stereo recording of Bruckner 8. Symphony, so probably we 
can add this to our list Tom Fine started:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIbZs2W0mnQ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clark Johnsen" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] early stereophony


> The current issue of the AES Journal (July/August) has a fine article on
> Stowkowski and the Evolution of Recording Techniques by Francis Rumsey.
> Included are many remarks about stereo, of course. Don't know if it can be
> found in the clear online.
>
> clark
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:04 PM, lesit <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Could the contents of the Ormandy reel be selection from a Midsummer
>> Night's dream. Issued on Lp in mono only, it was also issued on a 2 track
>> stereo tape which I used to own.
>>
>> A. Lesitsky
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Dennis Rooney <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I found no reference to the MAR items in my archival research on 
>> > Szell's
>> > Columbia/Epic recordings. It's entirely possible that RCA recorded 
>> > them.
>> > There was great resistance to stereo from Fred Plaut and others. and I
>> > never found any evidence of experimental binaural setups that preceded
>> > the*Messiah
>> > * of Dec. 1956. However, when inspecting the tapes at IMAR, I came 
>> > across
>> > an Ormandy/PO recording (I no longer remember the repertoire) recorded
>> > c1955 in 3-track, 1/4-inch format. The contents were never released.
>> >
>> > DDR
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Jon Samuels <[log in to unmask]
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Tom,
>> >> You're most welcome.
>> >> Here's an oddity that might interest you.  George Szell and the
>> Cleveland
>> >> Orchestra (under the name Music Appreciation Orchestra and His 
>> >> Symphony
>> >> Orchestra) made a number of recordings for Music Appreciation Records
>> >> between 1954 and 1955. As I understand it, they were actually recorded
>> by
>> >> Columbia Records, due to a joint arrangement between
>> Book-of-the-Month-Club
>> >> and Columbia House Record Club.  Szell's first stereo recordings for 
>> >> MAR
>> >> were made October 19, 20 and 21, 1955.  He recorded Brahms Academic
>> >> Festival Overture and Haydn Variations, Mozart Symphony No. 39, 
>> >> Schumann
>> >> Symphony No. 4 and Stravinsky Firebird Suite.  (I'm not certain the
>> Brahms
>> >> and Mozart were released in stereo on LP, but the Schumann and
>> Stravinsky
>> >> were.)  Yet he didn't record in stereo for Epic/Columbia until 
>> >> February
>> 22
>> >> and 23, 1957 for Columbia, making only mono recordings for them in 
>> >> 1955
>> and
>> >> 1956.  (Columbia's first acknowledged stereo recording was Leonard
>> Bernstein
>> >> conducting the New York Philharmonic-Symphony Orchestra in Handel's
>> >> Messiah on December  31, 1956.)
>> >> This raises some interesting questions.  Did Columbia indeed record 
>> >> the
>> >> MAR Szell recordings?  If so, why did they not use their stereo
>> recording
>> >> capability again until December, 1956?  If not, then who did?
>> >> By any chance, do you know, Dennis (Rooney)?
>> >> Jon Samuels
>> >>
>> >> --- On Tue, 9/25/12, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> From: Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] early stereophony
>> >> To: [log in to unmask]
>> >> Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2012, 6:37 AM
>> >>
>> >> Jon, thanks for all this information. Fascinating and educational.
>> >>
>> >> -- Tom Fine
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Samuels" <
>> [log in to unmask]
>> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:39 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] early stereophony
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Ironically, the only surviving RCA document that mentions the 
>> >> existence
>> of
>> >> binaural recording is the October 1953 Stokowski session I mentioned 
>> >> in
>> an
>> >> earlier post, which is labelled "binaural experiment". Naturally, none
>> of
>> >> those tapes have been located to date.
>> >>
>> >> Jon Samuels
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dennis D. Rooney
>> > 303 W. 66th Street, 9HE
>> > New York, NY 10023
>> > 212.874.9626
>>