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Roger I'm told for vinyl records it works as good as a VPI. Roger ________________________________ From: Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2012 5:55 AM Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Details on vinyl to digital re-mastering Why would you ever do this rather than a soak/brush/vacuum clean? The only thing I've ever encountered that wouldn't come off with a VPI cleaning or two was what appeared to be tarballs or glue residue on a record. I finally had to gently apply isoprop to the tarballs and gently wipe them off in a curled-up motion once they got less sticky. I doubt covering the record in a sticky substance would have lifted those tarballs, and they might have come from just such an ill-convceived "cleaning method" gone wrong. -- Tom Fine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hamilton" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Details on vinyl to digital re-mastering I recommend one try it first only on sides which are quite horrendous for their content / presentation, as well as degree of debris covering them, in order to get the technique sorted. It's best to have a dedicated tt that is broken, say, so that you can use it for all your glue-cleaning. (Too bad it doesn't require "hot glue" - hehe). The stuff in Tite Bond, anyway, doesn't adhere, once dry, to the pvc. But it _does_ adhere to almost everything else. I tried it on a little Wagner a while back and have the glue doughnut, still, from the perfect pull - which was my sole effort at this, to date. The record is fine and clean as a whistle, and the doughnut's mirror- like image of the grooves looks dern near playable, had I a bifurcated stylus in my kit. (Is that _all_ I'd need for playing back a "father?" - not that this would be a normal sort of father - more like a son of a disc..). Andrew On Sep 8, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Tom Fine wrote: > This is insane, but it's your records, not mine. I would _NEVER_ do this! > > -- Tom Fine > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kulp" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 1:47 AM > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Details on vinyl to digital re-mastering > > > http://www.cratekings.com/clean-records-with-wood-glue-aka-the- vinyl-facelift/ > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDiF-eVOgoI > http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99837 > > > > ________________________________ > From: Marie O'Connell <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 11:32 PM > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Details on vinyl to digital re-mastering > > I fail to see how a glue can clean records? Please explain. > > Marie > > On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Roger Kulp <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> The best,and cheapest way to clean records,is with good old elmer's glue. >> >> Roger >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: H D Goldman <[log in to unmask]> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2012 4:29 PM >> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Details on vinyl to digital re-mastering >> >> What I fail to understand is why disc phonograph records are treated so >> differently from other common things we clean. Most of us do not re-use >> the bath water when washing our dishes, cleaning our clothes, taking a >> bath, or brushing our teeth, so why is it so good for cleaning disc >> recordings? >> >> Traces of mold or mildew once introduced to the bath have the potential to >> contaminate every succeeding disc. Thoroughly cleaned discs do not require >> a "treatment" for static though some surfaces seem more prone to developing >> a charge with repeated playback. In these cases & situations where raising >> the humidity is not possible or of limited value, the ZeroStat or similar >> device is helpful but costly new. I suggest looking for them at estate >> sales; even those with broken triggers can usually be fixed. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Duane Goldman >> >> On Sep 6, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Tom Fine wrote: >> >> > Hi Buddy: >> > >> > 1. I wouldn't clean a 45RPM this way. A good solution is the >> Spin-Clean >> record washer: >> > >> http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/58982/Spin-Clean- >> Record_Washer_System-Record_Cleaning_Machine?&banner_id=242 >> > There are many options for cleaning fluids, up to quite costly and >> exotic. Dawn dish liquid would not be my choice. It can leave a residue. >> > >> > 2. The best way to fight static is first of all don't use a cheapo >> fabric platter mat and second don't work in too low-humidity environment. I >> have a humidity meter in the studio and I get static problems if it's under >> 50% or so, closer to 55% is better. You can also use a Zero-Stat gun: >> > >> http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/10413/Milty-Zerostat_3_Gun- Record_Cleaner >> > I have an original Discwasher Zerostat that still works well and >> does a >> good job on all but the most badly-static-charged LP sides >> > >> > 3. Regarding new, unplayed vinyl, it's usually somewhat grimey >> from the >> factory and transit. I always clean it before playing it. >> > >> > 4. As for EQ, any new grooved vinyl is designed for standard RIAA >> playback EQ. Any standard phono preamp provides RIAA eq as well as level >> boost, so it should be OK to interface the preamp directly to your computer. >> > >> > Good luck! Making decent-sounding vinyl-to-digital transfers >> requires >> some careful listening and testing different methods, but when the results >> are good, you get the sound you like from the vinyl with the convenience of >> digital files. >> > >> > -- Tom Fine >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blue Star Music" < >> [log in to unmask]> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]> >> > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 2:40 PM >> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Details on vinyl to digital re-mastering >> > >> > >> >> Please excuse me if these questions have already been asked and >> answered. >> >> >> >> I am converting 45 RPM vinyl to digital using pristine (never >> played) >> vinyl on a Stanton belt-drive turntable through amp/eq to computer input. >> Here are my questions: >> >> >> >> 1. I've been told to put the records on end in a soapy wash and >> brush >> them with the groove using a soft bristle brush. The wash is supposed to >> be distilled water with dish soap. Is this recommended for pristine >> vinyl? Is there a certain brand of soap to use or stay away from (ie: >> Dawn)? >> >> >> >> 2. After air drying, I've been using "Gruv-Glide" to reduce >> static. >> Is there something better? >> >> >> >> 3. Is this process all wrong? >> >> >> >> 4. What eq settings are recommended to bring vinyl back to life? >> >> >> >> Thanks for your input. >> >> >> >> BW >> >> Buddy Weaver >> >> San Diego, CA >> > >> >> H D Goldman Lagniappe Chemicals Ltd. >> PO Box 37066 St. Louis, MO 63141 USA >> v/f 314 205 1388 [log in to unmask] >> Serif Sound ♬ CD Premastering ➣ Dingbat Lacquer Sound Disc Andrew Hamilton, clerk 1 (513) 542-3555 www.serifsound.com www.dingbatlsd.com