Dear Steve,

We're mooting the structure with a conference presentation in mind. What I
was thinking of would involve at least two speakers who would alternate in
presenting the material, thus providing better "stage presence" and
variety. Presenting in segments of 30-40 min. with Q&A afterward would be
fine with me. Frankly, given the high intrinsic interest of the material
enriched by audio samples, the entire undertaking is self-recommending.
However, I do suggest that the segments, however many there would be,
should be presented over a single day.



On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Steve Smolian <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Is this a conference presentation a course or a seminar?
> Steve Smolian
> -----Original Message----- From: Tom Fine
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:43 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> I come down in the middle on this one. The presentation should be a
> "segment" in an ARSC Conference,
> broken into three "presentations," as I described yesterday. That gives
> breaks for Q&A about
> specific parts of the history (ie WECO, Europe, non-WECO American
> systems), and time for people to
> shuffle around in their uncomfortable chairs.
> Where I agree with Don is that no presenter I saw at ARSC (myself
> definitely included) has the
> professional stage presence to hold an audience for 90 minutes. Die
> Meistersinger is inherently more
> compelling a spectacle than anything I've ever seen on the agenda at ARSC,
> AES or any other audio
> organization conference!
> AES Historical Committee organizers like to set up 90-minute slots. The
> only way I've found to fill
> them is use long music examples. I think I still maxed out at 80 minutes
> and I noticed a lot of
> people clicking "smart" phones and the like during the music examples.
> If one really endeavored to present the early history of electrical
> recording, say from the roots up
> to when the WECO system was established in the American record business,
> that's a dense amount of
> history. A lot to absorb, best presented in bites. It would be a
> tremendous thing to see. The
> followup at the next conference could be a "segment" covering the history
> of magnetic recording.
> Start with early stuff, Poulsen, wire recording, invention of AC bias (by
> WECO), etc. Then the
> German development of both magnetic tape recording and magnetic tape
> itself, plus their early stereo
> recordings. Then you could have a half hour on Ampex, the adoption of tape
> as the master medium in
> American and European professional recording, amateur formats,
> mass-duping, etc. Then end with a
> half hour summary on modern knowledge about tape care, degradation,
> mitigation and transfer methods.
> -- Tom Fine
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Rooney" <
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:21 AM
>  Dear Don,
>> As the first act of DIE MEISTERSINGER lasts slightly longer than ninety
>> minutes but doesn't seem a bit too long in a good performance, I cannot
>> agree with your estimate except insofar as it might be influenced by the
>> quality of chairs we get to sit on at our conferences.
>> DDR
>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Don Cox <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>  On 15/10/2012, Dennis Rooney wrote:
>>> > Dear Tom,
>>> >
>>> > I'm inclined to agree with you; however, my experience with ARSC-ies
>>> > is that they are not a particularly technically-savvy lot, although
>>> > more and more computer mavens seem to post to this list and we do have
>>> > a Technical Committee. That feeling has certainly been reinforced by
>>> > the often comically ignorant queries that have been posted so
>>> > frequently in recent months.
>>> >
>>> > The genesis of electrical recording, presented in a detailed overview
>>> > with appropriate technical, patent and legal exhibits, and of course
>>> > with plentiful audio examples, would in my opinion be a great
>>> > presentation, just one not possible to cover in 35 minutes. To even
>>> > approach treating the subject properly, an hour would be a minimum
>>> > time and ninety minutes would be better. That sounds like a workshop,
>>> > except that it's not a how-to subject. "Too AES-y" would probably be
>>> > the response of the current worthies on the Program Committee. A
>>> > grass-roots contradiction of my thesis would be heartening. We'll see.
>>> >
>>> Ninety minutes would be a two-part presentation.
>>> No single talk should be longer than 45 minutes. People just cannot pay
>>> attention for that long.
>>> Regards
>>> --
>>> Don Cox
>>> [log in to unmask]
>> --
>> Dennis D. Rooney
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