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Dear Steve, We're mooting the structure with a conference presentation in mind. What I was thinking of would involve at least two speakers who would alternate in presenting the material, thus providing better "stage presence" and variety. Presenting in segments of 30-40 min. with Q&A afterward would be fine with me. Frankly, given the high intrinsic interest of the material enriched by audio samples, the entire undertaking is self-recommending. However, I do suggest that the segments, however many there would be, should be presented over a single day. Ciao, DDR On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Steve Smolian <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Is this a conference presentation a course or a seminar? > > Steve Smolian > > -----Original Message----- From: Tom Fine > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:43 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] EARLY ELECTRICAL DISK RECORDINGS: ANOTHER UNUSUAL > SAMPLE. > > I come down in the middle on this one. The presentation should be a > "segment" in an ARSC Conference, > broken into three "presentations," as I described yesterday. That gives > breaks for Q&A about > specific parts of the history (ie WECO, Europe, non-WECO American > systems), and time for people to > shuffle around in their uncomfortable chairs. > > Where I agree with Don is that no presenter I saw at ARSC (myself > definitely included) has the > professional stage presence to hold an audience for 90 minutes. Die > Meistersinger is inherently more > compelling a spectacle than anything I've ever seen on the agenda at ARSC, > AES or any other audio > organization conference! > > AES Historical Committee organizers like to set up 90-minute slots. The > only way I've found to fill > them is use long music examples. I think I still maxed out at 80 minutes > and I noticed a lot of > people clicking "smart" phones and the like during the music examples. > > If one really endeavored to present the early history of electrical > recording, say from the roots up > to when the WECO system was established in the American record business, > that's a dense amount of > history. A lot to absorb, best presented in bites. It would be a > tremendous thing to see. The > followup at the next conference could be a "segment" covering the history > of magnetic recording. > Start with early stuff, Poulsen, wire recording, invention of AC bias (by > WECO), etc. Then the > German development of both magnetic tape recording and magnetic tape > itself, plus their early stereo > recordings. Then you could have a half hour on Ampex, the adoption of tape > as the master medium in > American and European professional recording, amateur formats, > mass-duping, etc. Then end with a > half hour summary on modern knowledge about tape care, degradation, > mitigation and transfer methods. > > -- Tom Fine > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Rooney" < > [log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:21 AM > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] EARLY ELECTRICAL DISK RECORDINGS: ANOTHER UNUSUAL > SAMPLE. > > > Dear Don, >> >> As the first act of DIE MEISTERSINGER lasts slightly longer than ninety >> minutes but doesn't seem a bit too long in a good performance, I cannot >> agree with your estimate except insofar as it might be influenced by the >> quality of chairs we get to sit on at our conferences. >> >> DDR >> >> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Don Cox <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> On 15/10/2012, Dennis Rooney wrote: >>> >>> > Dear Tom, >>> > >>> > I'm inclined to agree with you; however, my experience with ARSC-ies >>> > is that they are not a particularly technically-savvy lot, although >>> > more and more computer mavens seem to post to this list and we do have >>> > a Technical Committee. That feeling has certainly been reinforced by >>> > the often comically ignorant queries that have been posted so >>> > frequently in recent months. >>> > >>> > The genesis of electrical recording, presented in a detailed overview >>> > with appropriate technical, patent and legal exhibits, and of course >>> > with plentiful audio examples, would in my opinion be a great >>> > presentation, just one not possible to cover in 35 minutes. To even >>> > approach treating the subject properly, an hour would be a minimum >>> > time and ninety minutes would be better. That sounds like a workshop, >>> > except that it's not a how-to subject. "Too AES-y" would probably be >>> > the response of the current worthies on the Program Committee. A >>> > grass-roots contradiction of my thesis would be heartening. We'll see. >>> > >>> Ninety minutes would be a two-part presentation. >>> >>> No single talk should be longer than 45 minutes. People just cannot pay >>> attention for that long. >>> >>> Regards >>> -- >>> Don Cox >>> [log in to unmask] >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Dennis D. Rooney >> 303 W. 66th Street, 9HE >> New York, NY 10023 >> 212.874.9626 >> >> -- Dennis D. Rooney 303 W. 66th Street, 9HE New York, NY 10023 212.874.9626