I might be incorrect about this, and would welcome being corrected, but I have understood that the earliest commercially-released electrical recording was from March 1925, live:

  US Columbia 50013-D (Black Label) 
  Trad. arr. Mark Andrews: "John Peel"
  Associated Glee Clubs of America
    The label reads "850 Male Voices"
    "Recorded at their performance at Metropolitan Opera House, N.Y."
    Matrix #98163

  The other side:
  "Adeste Fidelis"
  Associated Glee Clubs, Met.Op. Hse.1925 (as above)
  850 Male Voices
  "Augmented by the audience of 4000 voices at the Metropolitan Opera House, N.Y." Matrix 98166

  Nowhere do the labels indicate that a new or different recording method was used.

  The astonishing listening experience is John Peel. The dynamic range is incredible. The climax is extremely realistically loud. I've had at least three copies over the years and have never found one without a degree of wear in the climax, probably due to the heavy old pickups plowing through the heavily modulated grooves and creating grooves of their own. 

  I have read that after wear tests on a few early electrical recordings, the companies compressed their dynamic ranges to "cope." Is that correct? John Peel would rather seem to demand it for 1925/6 pickups. And did Victor beat Columbia with their Cortot and Stokowski electricals?

  Don Tait




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This brings up a question -- what is the earliest commercially-released 

Also, what is the oldest surviving test recording of an electrical system? 
Something from WECO? From 
GE (the optical-film system)?

Is any of the pre-commercial electrically-recorded material online?

-- Tom Fine

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> On 10/8/2012 11:36 AM, Mickey Clark wrote:
>> I have electrical issues on Columbia as early as January 1925- by Art
>> Gillham and  The Associated Glee Clubs of America waxed electrically by
>> March. I've issued discs by both these artists - Mickey
> And I transcribed a couple of Irish records, both by the same artist, recorded 
a few weeks apart, 
> onw acoustic, one electric. Again, early 1925.
> But according to the information I've read, Western Electric first approached 
Victor in late 1923 
> or early 1924, and Columbia shortly after. It took the two companies a year 
(and a disastrous 
> Christmas sales season) to decide they would adopt the new system.
> Peace,
> Paul
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lewis" <[log in to unmask]>
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>>> In all due respect, while Victor and Columbia readily embraced electric
>>> recording, the smaller labels did resist, mainly as they didn't have the
>>> capital resources to make the switch.
>>> Brunswick had it's "light ray" process which, though a mystery, seems to
>>> have been used by others as well as a way to dodge the equipment upgrade
>>> and hefty licensing fees.
>>> Gennett's electrical system, such as it was, was terrible sounding at
>>> first. You would think that Marsh Labs, with its earlier, inferior
>>> electrical system, would have prospered as a
>>> result. But it didn't. Homer Rodeheaver closed his own acoustic studio in
>>> Chicago in the fall of 1925 rather than to upgrade. I think BD&M went
>>> that
>>> route also.
>>> There was a little economic slump in 1925-26 that also wreaked havoc
>>> among
>>> the smaller labels, so it wasn't just that. But the changeover to
>>> electric
>>> was a major contributing factor
>>> to the disappearance of certain labels in those years.
>>> Dave Lewis
>>> Lebanon, OH
>>> On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Dennis Rooney
>>> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>>>> Dear Tom,
>>>> No. Western Electric demonstrated their system to both Victor and
>>>> Columbia.
>>>> Each signed and began releasing electrical recordings by spring 1925.
>>>> DDR