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 From: Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Record Research Scans
 
With obscure materials like this, if anyone is queasy about some alleged copyright owner -- legit or 
not -- harassing you with lawyers, there is a solution. Upload it to Archive.org. Judging from what 
is hosted by that site and what stays up there, available to all people at no cost, the 
bottom-feeder types don't want to tangle with the Prelingers. Now, on the other hand, there seem to 
be some legitimate copyright issues with some of the material at archive.org, but I imagine that if 
someone produced a legitimate right of copy (or whatever the term is), the folks running archive.org 
would remove the offending material.

In my opinion, the material you all are discussing is non-controversial. It likely has little to no 
commercial market so it's unlikely that anyone except someone who is very rich and very bored would 
bring in lawyers to prevent it from being hosted by a large global website like archive.org.

I've often wondered about scanned articles from old audio magazines. Come on, someone really is 
going to chase after the Prelingers to prevent everyone from seeing a 1950's profile of a McIntosh 
amplifier?

In the real world, copyright owners get militant and call in the attack dog lawyers over stuff that 
has enough commercial value to validate the expense and effort of bringing down the wrath. The music 
mega-glomerates learned the folly of suing small-time customers over low-value songs, and everyone 
else took note. If you uploaded the current hit movie to YouTube, the wrath hammer would come down 
quickly. If you uploaded some old Soundie, it's likely it would stay up there forever (unless it 
involved Mickey Mouse). I would say that old record-collector newsletters and magazines published by 
long-dead folks have so little commercial value that no one would be in a position to call out the 
dogs if it appeared online.

--- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Rooney" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Record Research Scans


>I agree with David that ARSC should continue to encourage such
> documentation. The amount of information as well as entertainment interest
> in such "ephemerae" is of incalculable value and any project to preserve it
> electronically is self-recommending.
>
> DDR
>
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:42 PM, David Seubert <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> Slightly different topic, but Jim Farrington had compiled a list of
>> phonograph trade journal (Voice of the Victor, Phonoscope, Talking Machine
>> World, etc) be be considered for inclusion in the RIPM (Retrospective Index
>> to Music Periodicals) indexing/scanning project. These are incredibly rare
>> and ephemeral and while they used to be valued primarily by collectors, all
>> sorts of social historians, musicologists, and others are using these types
>> of primary source documents now. I don't know what ever became of Jim's
>> RIPM proposal, but I think ARSC should continue to push for these to be
>> included in RIPM or possibly investigate other avenues (Internet Archive?)
>> for making them accessible.
>>
>> David Seubert
>> UCSB
>>
>> On 10/24/2012 9:11 AM, Michael Biel wrote:
>>
>>> Malcolm Rockwell has been scanning the issues and his collection if far,
>>> far more complete than this list.  I think he just needs a few of the
>>> mimeographed bulletins. He also has permission from Lenny Kunstadt's
>>> heirs, I think an aunt and a niece.
>>>
>>> Mike Biel  [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Record Research Scans
>>> From: Mason_Vander_Lugt<masonvl@**GMAIL.COM <[log in to unmask]>>
>>> Date: Wed, October 24, 2012 9:12 am
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>> Hi ARSC,
>>>
>>> I know some of you were involved in the writing and publication of
>>> Record
>>> Research Magazine. Can any of you tell me decisively whether anyone
>>> would
>>> contest the free distribution of PDF scans of the magazine? I emailed
>>> the
>>> representative of Spivey Records (my best guess for a 'rightsholder'),
>>> but
>>> got no response. I've been collecting them when I can find them, and now
>>> have about half of the full run scanned (less the sales lists).
>>>
>>> Does anybody have any of the issues listed below that they would be
>>> willing
>>> to lend, give or sell to me? I intend to put them up for free download
>>> when
>>> I'm finished.
>>>
>>> Finally, I think they would be much more useful if the text was
>>> searchable.
>>> Can anyone recommend a good (free?) OCR service that can accept PDF
>>> files?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any help or advice,
>>> Mason Vander Lugt
>>> Still needed:
>>>
>>> 1-42, except 17, 19-20, 22-24, 27
>>> 51/52
>>> 112-220 except 189/190, 201/202
>>>
>>> (If my math seems fuzzy to you, it's because they were published in
>>> double-issues after 112)
>>>
>>
>> --
>> David Seubert
>> Head, Special Collections (Acting)
>> Davidson Library
>> University of California
>> Santa Barbara, CA 93106-9010
>> Tel: 805-893-5444
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Dennis D. Rooney
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>