The subdivision "Catalogs" does not necessarily mean that the resource
includes any reproductions of the artist's' work. In this day and age,
chances are a catalog will include some images, but that is not a given.
And many monographs that include extensive reproductions of the artist's
work are not catalogs, because they do not list the holdings of a
particular institution.
So "Catalogs" (and related subdivisions such as Private collections,
Catalogues raisonnés, and Exhibitions) will help users find material
listing works by artists, but not necessarily material that includes
images of artists' work.
Elizabeth O'Keefe
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>>> Amy Turner <[log in to unmask]> 11/21/2012 1:23 PM >>>
I agree. Having both this sort of subject heading AND the author
access can be theoretically justified, but practically, one is probably
enough in the Google-age.
Amy
Amy Turner
Monographic Cataloger and Authority Control Coordinator
Duke University Libraries
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] artists' monographs and 700s
" There is value to allowing users to search for material that includes
images of an artist's work, and collocating this material, but there
needs to be some other way to do this. "
If a work is exclusively or primarily a collection of reproductions of
an artists' repertoire, doesn't it get the subject heading: 600:1x:$a
[Artist name] $v Catalogs ? ("use the subdivision Catalogs under names
of individual artists, craftspersons, families of artists and
craftspersons, and corporate bodies for works listing their art works or
crafts which are available or located in particular institutions or
places")
That seems like a more efficient way for users to find collections of
artists' works.
--Ben
Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems MIT Libraries
617-253-7137
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I think our discomfort with this relates to the fact that images/visual
surrogates don't fit comfortably into the FRBR model that underlies
RDA.
When the image of the art object is done by photomechanical or digital
means, it seems absurd to treat it as either an expression or
manifestation of the object. An expression implies some artistic or
intellectual contribution, which is clearly not the case, while a
manifestation implies that the original is preserved, and only the
carrier is different. This, too, is clearly not the case: a visual
surrogate, no matter how faithful, involves a major loss of the
essential qualities of the original (contrast this with a reproduction
of a textual work, which provides a much more accurate, one might say
lossless, capture of the original). Yet it seems equally absurd to treat
a visual surrogate as a related work, since it is so derivative of the
original.
There is value to allowing users to search for material that includes
images of an artist's work, and collocating this material, but there
needs to be some other way to do this. Attaching this heading to a
monograph feels wrong; it seems more like a heading you would attach to
a group record for the contents of a museum gallery that contained
several works by an artist. The best I can come up with is:
Artist. Works. Images/Reproductions/Visual surrogates (nothing quite
works)
Artist. Works. Selections. Images/Reproductions/Visual surrogates
And for individual works:
Artist. Title. Image/Reproduction/Visual surrogate
Perhaps the Thanksgiving meal will induce better ideas (unless it
produces only torpor).
Happy Thanksgiving to all.
Elizabeth O'Keefe
Elizabeth O'Keefe
Director of Collection Information Systems The Morgan Library & Museum
225 Madison Avenue
New York, NY 10016-3405
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>>> Penny Baker <[log in to unmask]> 11/21/2012 8:39 AM >>>
I agree with Anne -- we'd need a pretty good argument to justify
supplying "works selections" in the case of artists monographs...
Coyote, Wile E. (Wile Ethelbert), nemesis of Bugs Bunny. Works.
Selections.
Penny Baker
Sterling and Francine Clark Art Institute
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Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 7:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] artists' monographs and 700s
Actually, it's not the $e that concerns us. Rather, it's the addition
of "$t Works. $k Selections" to a personal name heading because a book
includes images of an artist's work (That type of book would represent
about 99% of our collection.) The uniform title "Works Selections" means
nothing to our user community. Even in a post-MARC world, I'm having a
hard time imaging how it could be useful. What am I missing?
Thanks again.
Anne Champagne
Art Institute of Chicago
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Mark K. Ehlert
<[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Anne Champagne <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
wrote:
Recently, and more frequently, I've been seeing the following type of
700 in RDA records for artists' monographs:
700 12 artist's name, $e artist. $k Works. $t Selections.
Presumably this access point is justified by Chapter 6, but can someone
please help me understand how it's useful?
One rationale might that there's nowhere else in the present bib record
nor in the related work's (eventual?) authority record to post the
specific relationship between the creator and the work.
Slipping a designator in the access point itself--despite the legality
of the $e under MARC--isn't justified by the instructions on building
AAPs following RDA 6.27ff..
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Coordinator University of Minnesota
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Metadata Education (DCME) 222 21st Avenue South
Phone: 612-624-0805 Minneapolis, MN 55455-0439
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