I've noticed no discussion on Bibframe of filing indicators, nor indication of such in posted examples. Did I miss it? There was a recent discussion on another list of titles which should file under what appears to be an initial article, e.g, "A is for ...". How will this be handled in Bibframe? Initial articles differ between languages, as well as "A", "An" and "The" being occasionally the word by which to file. Programming to recognize this would be very complex. I have seen no discussion concerning indication of language in Bibframe, on which to base such programming. Are we to no longer have alphabetical browse lists, only web style searching? I would miss alphabetical browse lists apart from subject searches, which I prefer to have in inverse chronological order. That too would be more difficult to program based on imprint date in the absence of a date fixed field. The imprint date may even be lacking, if that CONSER provision is carried over. __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod ([log in to unmask]) {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/ ___} |__ \__________________________________________________________