Aloha, We're hoping for some clarification about the order of subfields in RDA NARs for personal names. Is it correct that subfield $c follows subfield $d for cataloger additions--occupationterms and also "Spirit"--that are recorded in parentheses but that subfield $c precedes $d when we record termsconsidered part of the name (such as Jr. or III) or associated titles (such asCountess), or--in the near future--terms of address, honor, office, and rank (such as Sir, Captain, Rev.)? In other words, does $c comes after $d when it contains parentheses but before $d when it does not? Here's a real-live example: We are updating and recoding NAR no2009160736 (Roberts, Ian, $c actor). The year of birth is known (1952) but another individual is already using the heading Roberts, Ian, $d 1952. Which of these is correct? Roberts, Ian, $d 1952- $c (Actor) Roberts, Ian$c(Actor), $d 1952- Or is it better not to record the date in the 100 field at all (in violation of the LC-PCC PS at 9.19.1.3) and leave the heading with the unique string Roberts, Ian $c (Actor)? After all, that's what the Phase 2 program would do... Thanks. Nancy -- Nancy Sack Cataloging Department University of Hawaii at Manoa 2550 McCarthy Mall Honolulu, HI 96822 phone: 808-956-2648 fax: 808-956-5968 e-mail: [log in to unmask]