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Thank you, LR

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Adam L. Schiff <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I've been lying awake thinking about these changes (don't tell me none of the rest of you do this occasionally too!), and particularly the one to do with fictitious characters. �What I'm puzzling about is how in RDA we will distinguish between fictitious characters with the same preferred name. In LCSH, the surname of an author is frequently used for this and added to the qualifier in a single set of parentheses, e.g.

Jeremiah (Fictitious character : Smith)

Alonso (Fictitious character : Shakespeare)

Would we be able to add an author's surname to an access point for a fictitious person, and if so, under what instruction?

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On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Lasater, Mary Charles wrote:

Richard,

Thanks so much for providing this. I ‘intended’ to go through all the changes, checking for this information so you saved me lots of time.

Just to be sure I understand, 1xx’s that use $c Ph.D. (i.e Boyd, Robert, Ph. D.) will need to be changed

It appears that we could possible change1xx’s with M.D. to Doctor (i.e. Chen, Jun, $c M.D. )

However, the last category that you mention:

� �Nichols, Chris (Of the North Oxford Association)
� �Independent burgess (of Nottingham)

These will eventually not be ok under rda--?

Sincerely,

Mary Charles


From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]GOV] On Behalf Of Moore, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] [RDA-L] 2012 approved RDA proposals: changes posted

With apologies for cross-posting, I'd like to thank Judy for her email below, and draw colleagues attention to two of the BL's proposals (BL/3 and BL/4), that are included in this update, and will appear shortly in the RDA text. They will greatly increase the range of qualifiers available to create unique authorised access points for personal names, and help expedite the elimination of undifferentiated NARs.

This is also relevant to the decisions cataloguers take, when reviewing those NARs flagged for review under the Phase I RDA changes to LC/NAF, as many existing $c qualifiers will now be acceptable under RDA (though in some cases needing the addition of parentheses).

The following kinds of qualifier will be available to distinguish personal name access points; they will also be recorded in MARC 21 field 368 in authority records, as and when institutions usethe field in personal NARs (I think LC have yet to implement subfield $d for NACO). I've reminded our own cataloguers that none should be recorded in MARC 21 field 374, as they are not Occupations. This list of potential examples is more extensive that that included in the RDA update.

Terms of honour, rank or office:

� �Wood, John, Captain
� �Appleby, Robert, Sir
� �Abraham, Martin, Doctor
� �Graves, Ernest, Lieutenant General

Designations for persons named in sacred scriptures:

� �Micah (Biblical prophet)
� �Zoram (Book of Mormon figure)
� �Rachel (Talmudic figure)
� �Azazael (Demon)

Designations for fictitious and legendary characters:

� �Holmes, Sherlock (Fictitious character)
� �Aeneas (Legendary character)
� �Hermes (Greek deity)
� �Garu� a (Mythical bird)

Designations for type, species or breed of a non-human entity:

� �Lauder Lass (Horse)
� �Henrietta (Cat)
� �Skipper (Spaniel)
� �Congo (Chimpanzee)

Other designations:

� �Woods, George (Gentleman)
� �Jones, William (Defendant)
� �Budd, Henry (Cree Indian)
� �Yas� odharā (Wife of Gautama Buddha)

RDA will also include the following as examples of "Other designations". Strictly speaking, they are really examples of Associated Institution and Place of Residence, but we were unable to get them removed from this update, so designations like this can be used in the interim as "Other designations", pending a further change proposal.

� �Nichols, Chris (Of the North Oxford Association)
� �Independent burgess (of Nottingham)


Regards
Richard

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From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:[log in to unmask]BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of JSC Secretary
Sent: 11 February 2013 15:06
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Subject: [RDA-L] 2012 approved RDA proposals: changes posted

The final versions of the proposals approved by the Joint Steering Committee for Development of RDA during and after its November 2012 meeting have been posted on the JSC web site. See the "Sec final" documents listed in the table of new working documents<http://www.rda-jsc.org/workingnew.html> or consult a specific proposal in the constituency proposals section<http://www.rda-jsc.org/working1.html#constituency>.

If you're interested in which instructions are affected by the approved proposals, a table<http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/2012RDAchanges.pdf> is available for your use. It lists the new, revised, or deleted instructions and indicates where changes were made (in the instruction, in the examples, or both); it also includes the JSC document number if you want to read the background and justification for the changes.



Regards, Judy Kuhagen

JSC Secretary