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One of the downsides of the H1 is that there is a lot of handling noise. It's shape suggests that you hold it... and as you do you introduce noise into the recording.

with the H4n there is a remote you can use so not to induce this handling noise.... (and a mounting screw)

I use the H4n and Marantz PMD661 for language documentation/ linguistic field recordings. The Marantz has slightly better Pre-amps... but depending on your purpose and how trained your ears are to hear this difference you are likely to not notice.

With Zoom products check the website to see if there is any firmware updates... there was for my H4n.

- hugh


On Apr 14, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Richard L. Hess wrote:

> Hi, Peter,
> 
> Whey you say "no smart phones need apply" it is my understanding that there are good-quality audio interfaces for the iPhone, just say'n.
> 
> To that end, I have a Zoom H2 which is amazingly good for the price. The slightly thicker, but otherwise improved Zoom H2n seems decent...not enough for me to buy it as the H2 meets my needs (I do have other more serious gear).
> 
> In general, I think the Tascam units have also been well-received.
> 
> I delayed a bit sending this after starting it and I see John Schroth has said good things about the Tascams and Don Cox about the Zoom H4n. Two things about the H4n--it is huge compared to many other options and I heard rumours (you should check this out) that the XLR inputs (a plus) are not all that quiet, but then again, I don't think you're looking for something that uses external mics.
> 
> Also, if you wish to spend less, the Zoom H1 is not bad. My son has one and he's gotten some decent recordings with it.
> 
> One of the neat things about the Zoom H2n is that it has an MS mic arrangement on the front and a broad XY arrangement on the back (total of five mic capsules) and the MS is much nicer than XY (as on the original Zoom H2) for recording speech as you have a mic dedicated to the direct sound. The H2 and H2n can record two stereo pairs (front and back) which is quite useful. A colleague borrowed my H2n and bought her own to record a major discussion session and she had eight different perspectives to transcribe from.
> 
> I see Cary brought up the point about battery life--this is something to check. The Zoom H2 gets maybe six hours off a fully charged pair of Maha/Powerex Imedion NiMH cells. The H1 uses a single AA and gets about the same life. I think the H2n has even better battery life. I don't know about the newer Tascams.
> 
> http://zoom.co.jp/products/h1        Zoom H1 now on version 2
> http://zoom.co.jp/products/h2n      Zoom H2n
> http://zoom.co.jp/products/h4n      Zoom H4n
> 
> http://tascam.com/products/handheld_recorder/   The Tascam lineup
> 
> I have been happy with 8 and 16 GB cards in the Zoom H2 (I bought one for my church and they record services every Sunday and then extract the sermon for the Web). At 44.1 ks/s 24 bit it is about 1 GB an hour for stereo. I bought a 16 GB card in 2010 when we were going to be away for seven or eight Sundays (only one service a Sunday in the summer).
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Richard
> 
> On 2013-04-14 1:59 PM, Peter Hirsch wrote:
>> I seem to recall the discussion of decent quality portable digital
>> (audio) recorders on this list a year or three back.
>> 
>> Can I get suggestions from out there for something pocket sized that
>> costs up to $250 (or so) that I can use at those moments when I am
>> saying to myself "I wish I had something to record that (birdcalls,
>> subway musicians, environmental sounds, etc. - I'm not talking super
>> hi-fidelity concert recording) with".
>> 
>> "No smart phones need apply"
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Peter Hirsch
>> 
> 
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