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Shlomo, You weren't satisfied with the explanation given as to why this is not the case? Rob On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Shlomo Sanders < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hear, hear**** > > ** ** > > Thanks,**** > > Shlomo**** > > ** ** > > Experience the all-new, singing and dancing interactive Primo brochure<http://www.exlibrispublications.com/primo/> > **** > > ** ** > > *From:* Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum [mailto: > [log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Young,Jeff (OR) > *Sent:* Saturday, May 04, 2013 06:27 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: [BIBFRAME] Documents and improvements**** > > ** ** > > As Karen Coyle suggested (if I skimmed her recent comments correctly), > what if you guys can't agree because you're both merely reinventing RDF > graphs?**** > > ** ** > > Jeff > > Sent from my iPad**** > > > On May 3, 2013, at 4:16 PM, "Robert Sanderson" <[log in to unmask]> > wrote:**** > > ** ** > > Dear Sally, Ray and all, > > As co-chairs and co-editors of the W3C Open Annotation Community Group, > Paolo, Herbert and I would again like to invite members of the BIBFRAME > group to continue the discussion of interoperable annotation on the mailing > list for the W3C Community Group. There is neither a cost nor membership > requirement to joining. > > We feel it is fair to say that the Open Annotation effort has gained > significant momentum, being the 6th largest community group with many > active and ongoing discussions. However there is always room for > improvement, and we still believe that both BIBFRAME and Open Annotation > would benefit from an open discussion of the issues that resulted in the > divergence which is clear in the annotation document. > > It is regrettable that the BIBFRAME annotation model is neither compatible > nor interoperable with the Open Annotation Data Model, especially given the > significant overlap between the target communities of Open Annotation and > BIBFRAME. We are disappointed that prior efforts to engage with the > BIBFRAME community regarding annotation did not yield more constructive > results to this stage. We hope that our invitation to discuss issues on the > W3C Community Group will be met positively as we feel we owe it to our > communities to work towards convergence. > > Respectfully, > > Robert Sanderson, Paolo Ciccarese, and Herbert Van de Sompel > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:08 AM, McCallum, Sally <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > Thanks to all for your comments and ideas over the last few months. The > small team that we have called the Early Experimenters has prepared some > discussion papers on difficult topics related to the BIBFRAME model and the > developing draft vocabulary. Now we want to put these papers on > bibframe.org and begin discussion on this listserv. By preparing > background and recommendation papers we hope to help focus the discussion > on the issues. > > > > > > > > The issues are some of the hard ones that all of us who deal with > bibliographic data run into -- always. We are starting with the BIBFRAME > Annotations paper, which you can find here: > > > > http://bibframe.org/documentation/annotations > > > > Then we hope to get discussion papers on BIBFRAME Authorities, > Relationships, Schema.org, and Resource types out soon, followed by > Holdings, Aggregates, and other issues. These were prepared by various > subgroups of the Experimenter team. We do not want to send everything at > once as we would like you to have focus rather than overload. > > > > > > > > We ask that when discussing the topics, you name your listserv comment > with the topic short title (indicated on the topic paper) with an extra > title to bind threads, e.g., "annotations--main point". > > > > > > > > We at LC continue to work on the conversion of MARC data, which, along > with RDA, is the current feeder of the current vocabulary available at > http://bibframe.org/. In the last couple of months, we have made the > following enhancements to the BIBFRAME website: > > > > > > > > - Regularly updated to the vocabulary: http://bibframe.org/vocab/ > > > > - Added BIBFRAME example snippets in vocabulary section: e.g. > http://bibframe.org/vocab/class-lcc > > > > - Improved the MARC-to-BIBFRAME code: http://bibframe.org/tools/ > > > > - Added a set of Frequently Asked Questions: http://bibframe.org/faq/ > > > > > > > > We have made every effort to update the MARC-to-BIBFRAME transformation > code after modifying the vocabulary, and we plan to change and enhance the > code based on feedback from the papers. You can begin using the > transformation code today as a reference and starting point for your own > explorations. See the contribute page to learn more: > http://bibframe.org/contribute/. > > > > > > > > Please read the papers that we are be putting up on bibframe.org and > participate in the discussion -- we are all in this together! > > > > > > > > Sally > > > > > > > > ************************** > > > > Sally H. McCallum > > > > Chief, Network Development and Standards Office > > > > Library of Congress, 101 Independence Ave., SE > > > > Washington, DC 20540 USA > > > > [log in to unmask] > > > > Tel. 1-202-707-5119 -- Fax 1-202-707-0115 > > > > ************************** > > > > **** > >