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Robert, for those of us who are struggling to understand both OA and BIBFRAME (see my post just before this one), could you give a brief overview of the differences that make these two incompatible? Are they incompatible in terms of their formal definitions, or do you find them to be semantically incompatible? or both?

Thanks,
kc

On 5/3/13 1:14 PM, Robert Sanderson wrote:
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Dear Sally, Ray and all,

As co-chairs and co-editors of the W3C Open Annotation Community Group, Paolo, Herbert and I would again like to invite members of the BIBFRAME group to continue the discussion of interoperable annotation on the mailing list for the W3C Community Group. There is neither a cost nor membership requirement to joining.

We feel it is fair to say that the Open Annotation effort has gained significant momentum, being the 6th largest community group with many active and ongoing discussions. However there is always room for improvement, and we still believe that both BIBFRAME and Open Annotation would benefit from an open discussion of the issues that resulted in the divergence which is clear in the annotation document.

It is regrettable that the BIBFRAME annotation model is neither compatible nor interoperable with the Open Annotation Data Model, especially given the significant overlap between the target communities of Open Annotation and BIBFRAME.  We are disappointed that prior efforts to engage with the BIBFRAME community regarding annotation did not yield more constructive results to this stage. We hope that our invitation to discuss issues on the W3C Community Group will be met positively as we feel we owe it to our communities to work towards convergence.

Respectfully,

Robert Sanderson, Paolo Ciccarese, and Herbert Van de Sompel



On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:08 AM, McCallum, Sally <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Thanks to all for your comments and ideas over the last few months.  The small team that we have called the Early Experimenters has prepared some discussion papers on difficult topics related to the BIBFRAME model and the developing draft vocabulary.  Now we want to put these papers on bibframe.org and begin discussion on this listserv.   By preparing background and recommendation papers we hope to help focus the discussion on the issues.
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> We at LC continue to work on the conversion of MARC data, which, along with RDA, is the current feeder of the current vocabulary available at http://bibframe.org/.  In the last couple of months, we have made the following enhancements to the BIBFRAME website:
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> We have made every effort to update the MARC-to-BIBFRAME transformation code after modifying the vocabulary, and we plan to change and enhance the code based on feedback from the papers.  You can begin using the transformation code today as a reference and starting point for your own explorations.  See the contribute page to learn more: http://bibframe.org/contribute/.
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