> Does the BIBFRAME 'work' include different expressions (as in FRBR) - > for example different translations? -- Yes. > Eill it be possible to express links between works - e.g different > translations? -- Yes. In fact, we need to modify the transformation code to draw this out. We'll let you know once we have done this. FWIW, the work-to-work relations exist http://bibframe.org/vocab/translationOf http://bibframe.org/vocab/translation Warmly, Kevin > -----Original Message----- > From: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Shlomo Sanders > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 1:25 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [BIBFRAME] Translations and BIBFRAME Works > > Does the BIBFRAME 'work' include different expressions (as in FRBR) - > for example different translations? > Translations may be considered a different "conceptual essence" (albeit > a related one) but I haven't been able to find this stated explicitly. > Eill it be possible to express links between works - e.g different > translations? > > Thanks, > Shlomo > > Experience the all-new, singing and dancing interactive Primo brochure > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 04:44 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [BIBFRAME] What's an instance? > > I tend to think of a Bibframe instance as an edition, but the Bibframe > instance seems to be something different, mainly in envisioning more > than one instance per edition, but occasionally more than one edition > per instance, using ISBN as the determining factor. > > Often different bindings of copies of an edition have separate ISBNs, > but Bibframe says one instance per ISBN. Since binding is normally not > mentioned in description (using "description" in its usual sense, not > to mean abstract or summary), how would these instance descriptions > differ from each other for the trade, library, deluxe, paperback > bindings? One could have four Bibframe instances for one > AACR2 or RDA edition. > > Often editions are published simultaneously by two or more publishers, > but Bibframe says an instance can only have one publisher. Sometimes > these simultaneous publications have both or more publishers given in > the resource. If both or more publishers appear, surely both or more > should be included in one instance description, even if each publisher > assigns its own ISBN? Each ISBN describes the same resource; the only > difference is who sells it. An instance description with one > publisher and one ISBN would not match any existing bibliographic item, > each item having more than one. > > Occasionally publishers repeat an ISBN in difference editions. Are > these two dr more editions to be one instance? Which edition would be > described? How does one handle both in the same collection with only > one instance description? Rarely the same ISBN can appear in editions > of different works. > > ISBN is not a safe litmus for determining editions (instances). > > How do yearbooks or multivolume sets, with an ISSN for the serial, an > ISBN for the set, but individual ISBNs for the serial and set volumes, > fit into this? (Utlas had 021 for analytical ISBNs of volumes within a > serial or set, a feature we still miss.) While for ebrary, we must > create a record for each volume of a mutlivolume set or a serial, > because they can have only one 856$url per record, that is not > something we would like to do for all. It would clutter up catalogues. > BTW, can an instance record have multiple PDF URLs? > > If these volumes with their own ISBNs are separate instances, are each > instances of a separate work, or are all volumes instances of a single > set or serial work? Instance records for these volumes would seem to > have more in common with MARC item records, than AACR2/RDA MARC > manifestation records. > > The Bibframe provisions seem to me not to accord with messy > bibliographic reality. > > > __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod ([log in to unmask]) > {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/ > ___} |__ \__________________________________________________________