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> Does the BIBFRAME 'work' include different expressions (as in FRBR) -
> for example different translations?
-- Yes.

> Eill it be possible to express links between works - e.g different
> translations?
-- Yes.  In fact, we need to modify the transformation code to draw this out.  We'll let you know once we have done this.

FWIW, the work-to-work relations exist

http://bibframe.org/vocab/translationOf
http://bibframe.org/vocab/translation

Warmly,
Kevin


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Shlomo Sanders
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> Subject: [BIBFRAME] Translations and BIBFRAME Works
> 
> Does the BIBFRAME 'work' include different expressions (as in FRBR) -
> for example different translations?
> Translations may be considered a different "conceptual essence" (albeit
> a related one) but I haven't been able to find this stated explicitly.
> Eill it be possible to express links between works - e.g different
> translations?
> 
> Thanks,
> Shlomo
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 04:44
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> Subject: [BIBFRAME] What's an instance?
> 
> I tend to think of a Bibframe instance as an edition, but the Bibframe
> instance seems to be something different, mainly in envisioning more
> than one instance per edition, but occasionally more than one edition
> per instance, using ISBN as the determining factor.
> 
> Often different bindings of copies of an edition have separate ISBNs,
> but Bibframe says one instance per ISBN.  Since binding is normally not
> mentioned in description (using "description" in its usual sense, not
> to mean abstract or summary), how would these instance descriptions
> differ from each other for the trade, library, deluxe, paperback
> bindings?  One could have four Bibframe instances for one
> AACR2 or RDA edition.
> 
> Often editions are published simultaneously by two or more publishers,
> but Bibframe says an instance can only have one publisher.  Sometimes
> these simultaneous publications have both or more publishers given in
> the resource.  If both or more publishers appear, surely both or more
> should be included in one instance description, even if each publisher
> assigns its own ISBN?  Each ISBN describes the same resource; the only
> difference is who sells it.   An instance description with one
> publisher and one ISBN would not match any existing bibliographic item,
> each item having more than one.
> 
> Occasionally publishers repeat an ISBN in difference editions.  Are
> these two dr more editions to be one instance?  Which edition would be
> described?  How does one handle both in the same collection with only
> one instance description?  Rarely the same ISBN can appear in editions
> of different works.
> 
> ISBN is not a safe litmus for determining editions (instances).
> 
> How do yearbooks or multivolume sets, with an ISSN for the serial, an
> ISBN for the set, but individual ISBNs for the serial and set volumes,
> fit into this?  (Utlas had 021 for analytical ISBNs of volumes within a
> serial or set, a feature we still miss.)  While for ebrary, we must
> create a record for each volume of a mutlivolume set or a serial,
> because they can have only one 856$url per record, that is not
> something we would like to do for all.  It would clutter up catalogues.
> BTW, can an instance record have multiple PDF URLs?
> 
> If these volumes with their own ISBNs are separate instances, are each
> instances of a separate work, or are all volumes instances of a single
> set or serial work?  Instance records for these volumes would seem to
> have more in common with MARC item records, than AACR2/RDA MARC
> manifestation records.
> 
> The Bibframe provisions seem to me not to accord with messy
> bibliographic reality.
> 
> 
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