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Hi everyone
I switched to xp early on and most of the platforms here are on it 
(except for one win98se and 2 win 7). I don't see any reason to make a 
switch on the ones running XP. Most of them have no INTERNET on them 
anyway and I do not connect USB dongles to them so they should be safe. 
If it ain't baroque, don't fix it.
Shai


בתאריך 17/07/13 5:44 PM, ציטוט Tom Fine:
> Hi Carl:
>
> For most corporate everyday tasks, there was enough user interface and 
> computing power back with Windows 2000 (an update of WinNT that 
> brought the user interface in line with Win98, and improved many 
> things). Most of that power was brought into WinXP for home users, and 
> XP Pro continued the improvements for corporate users. So for most of 
> us, there is no reason except forced obsolesence to "upgrade" any 
> further. In my opinion, only someone with more money than brains runs 
> out and gets every "upgrade." There is now a long history of lardware, 
> "feature-creep" and ill-conceived "reinvent the wheel" disasters (like 
> Windows 8, for instance). If something works well, the wise man sticks 
> with it until he's absolutely sure that something better has finally 
> come down the pike. Newer <> better.
>
> In a business setting, IT budgets are basically massive cost centers 
> unless they are directly improving productivity and allowing machines 
> to take over work done by people. So, needless "upgrades" and needless 
> hours wasted re-training people on new software direct impacts the 
> bottom line. In small businesses like mine, it's money directly out of 
> my pocket, twice (once to buy the un-needed "upgrade" and once to use 
> non-billable hours trying to figure it out).
>
> BTW, I didn't switch to XP until it was up to SP3. Win2K was serving 
> my needs just fine. By SP3, XP was clearly a superior operating 
> environment and could be tuned to look and act almost exactly like 
> Win2K with some ease-of-use improvements.
>
> -- Tom Fine
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Pultz" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] The end of Windows XP? So What !!!
>
>
>> It's surprising how much mission critical corporate infrastructure 
>> runs on
>> old platforms. When I was a tech at an IBM data center ten years ago, 
>> there
>> was tons of old junk running monitoring and disaster-recovery systems 
>> for
>> big corps, with whining hard drives and irreplaceable hardware - 
>> disasters
>> waiting to happen. I was amazed at the willingness of managers to 
>> roll the
>> dice at that level with that much wealth on the line. I doubt that has
>> changed, though older PC gear is much more capable now than what was old
>> then.
>>
>> Anyway, for small shops it is reasonable to run old stuff isolated so 
>> long
>> as you don't create more hassle with that than the effort of 
>> upgrades. Keep
>> a close eye on the HW and the 'restorablility' of your old box. Keep 
>> system
>> images, compatible maintenance utilities, and spare parts on hand. If 
>> you
>> are only going to play in your own sandbox, that's fine. If you need 
>> skills
>> that are portable, or you need to interoperate with other 
>> environments or
>> people who have moved on, then it's good to stay conversant with newer
>> formats, interfaces, and standards. Unlike tape machines, there isn't
>> usually anything endearingly better about older computer gear, and 
>> upgrades
>> are deductible business expenses.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dan Nelson
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:59 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] The end of Windows XP? So What !!!
>>
>> So what if MS stops security updates for XP.....
>> I have xp pro running on all of my stand alone audio work stations... 
>> none
>> of them are on line !
>> Just like 10's of thousand corporate computers are running XP 
>> isolated from
>> the internet as long as XP runs the existing internal programs MS 
>> dropping
>> support doesnt matter.
>> My work stations are running Intel I3 with 8 gigs of ram .... more 
>> than xp
>> knows what to do with but they run 12-18 hours a day and never blink.
>> Just run XP off line and save the hassel of finding replacement 
>> programs .
>> dnward
>> Beautiful Music you will never forget, at;
>> http://www.americanbeautiful.podbean.com/
>>
>>
>

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