Yes, the ATM has the original cylinders, plus open reel copies made in the 1980s.  We'd like to make digital copies from the cylinders, but at this point we don't have the equipment.

Hugh, to answer your question, we don't participate in the Open Language Archives Community.  We wanted to do that a few years ago, but couldn't get the funding for the project.  I still hope that we'll be able to implement an OLAC metadata repository in the future.

Susan Hooyenga
Collections Processing Coordinator
Media Preservation Initiative
Indiana University

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Hi Hugh,

Here's the catalogue record for Curtis's cylinders at the Archives of Traditional Music (ATM) at Indiana University (Bloomington):

Author/Composer,etc: Curtis, Edward S., 1868-1952.
Title: [United States, Western States and Canada, British
                        Columbia, North American Indians, 1907-1913] [sound
                        recording] / collected by Edward S. Curtis.
Physical description: 276 cylinders : 160 rpm, coarse groove, mono. ; 2 1/8
                        in. x 4 1/4 in. + documentation
Performer: Performed by various native musicians.
Recording info.: Recorded by Curtis and possibly others in British
                        Columbia, Washington, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, New
                        Mexico, South Dakota and possibly other locations from
                 Notes: North American Indian songs and music.
                 Notes: Accompanied by item description sheets and references.
                 Notes: Indexed in Dorothy Sara Lee, Native North American
                        Music and Oral Data (I.U. Press, 1979) and Indiana
                        University, Bloomington, Archives of Traditional
                        Music, Early Field Recordings (I.U. Press, 1987).
            Local note: Additional documentation in archival box in vault.
            Local note: scy 1--279; EC 10" 263--273.11; ATL (old copy)
                        1451--1471; ATL 8689--8694
               Summary: Includes music of the following North American Indian
                        groups: Clayoquot, Cowichan, Haida, Hesquiat, and
                        Kwakiutl in B.C.; Arapaho, Cheyenne, Cochiti, Crow,
                        Klikitat, Kutenai, Nez Percé, Salish, Shoshoni,
                        Snohomish, Wishram, Yakima, Acoma, Arikara, Hidatsa,
                        Makah, Mandan, Paloos, Piegan, Tewa (San Ildefonso,
                        San Juan, Tesuque, Nambé), and possibly Dakota,
                        Clallam, Twana, Colville and Nespelim in the western
      Partial contents: Medicine songs -- War songs -- Children's songs --
                        Lullabies --Healing songs -- Sun dance songs -- Grass
                        dance songs -- Hand game songs --Gambling songs --
                        Ghost dance songs -- Bear dance songs -- Myth songs
                        --Buffalo dance songs -- Scalp dance songs -- Various
                        ceremonial songs -- Others (too numerous to mention).

   1)57-014-F ATL 19516--19526

Marilyn Graf is the Archivist. Email: atmusic (at)



Jonathan Wise
Archivist, Resource Centre
Business Partnerships and Information Management (BPIM) Canadian Museum of Civilization 100, rue Laurier Street, Gatineau, QC  K1A 0M8
Tél: 819 776-8183 Fax: 819 776-7143

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A a Linguist I am interested in these recordings and if the host archive participates in

- hugh paterson

On Jul 3, 2013, at 11:36 PM, David Lewis wrote:

> I suspect what's left of the Curtis cylinder collection is at Indiana

> University, unless some have landed in the Folklife Collection at LoC.

> Curtis' effects have shown up in various places, though mainly in

> California. I suspect that he donated the cylinders during his

> lifetime. However, that collection is one of IU's preservation poster

> children. It has fallen prey to chemical decomposition and I can't say

> how much of it is still conservable. Perhaps someone on this list who

> is closer to the collection could report.


> Uncle Dave Lewis

> Cincinnati, OH

> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Chris Bishop <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>wrote:


>> Edward Curtis, best known as a photographer of native Americans "made

>> over

>> 10,000 wax cylinder recordings of Indian language and music"

>> according to Wikipedia. Do these recordings survive, and are any

>> available to the public, or, more conveniently, online?


>> Thanks


>> Chris Bishop