Karen, et al.:

I like where this is going.  To me it has a lot of traction in a world where data comes in from multiple sources and decisions need to be made about which are more 'golden'.  It might also be useful as be start to improve data, to exclude transcribed data from certain kinds of transactions, for instance.

This is not to say that we could expect the outside world to use something like this if they don't find it useful, but within libraries, particularly as we integrate legacy and prospective data, it could be quite helpful.


On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Karen Coyle <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Thanks. Then we'd need a use case for distinguishing between recorded and transcribed, or between recorded and supplied, which we do not separately code today. The only "coded" source is "supplied." I suspect that in many current catalog records it is not possible to know if certain elements are recorded or are transcribed, right? It seems to be an assumption made based on the nature of the data element (e.g. publisher).

I'd suggest that transliteration be noted similar to language, using a code on the element. It would be ideal to know WHICH transliteration was used, but I don't think our data can supply that.


On 7/5/13 8:13 AM, Danskin, Alan wrote:
Information in the resource may be recorded without being transcribed, for example date of publication (, copyright date, extent. There are at least three categories:
some information may also be transliterated, so that may be a fourth category.

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Subject: Re: [BIBFRAME] supplied information, in transcribed elements

Francis, et al,

I've been wondering if we shouldn't reverse the markup, and indicate which elements are precisely transcribed. In effect, everything else is supplied.


On 7/3/13 9:36 AM, Lapka, Francis wrote:

RDA 2.2.4, Other Sources of Information, notes:

When instructions specify transcription, indicate that the information is supplied from a source outside the resource itself:

<!--[if !supportLists]-->·         <!--[endif]-->By means of a note (see 2.20)

<!--[if !supportLists]-->·         <!--[endif]-->Or by some other means (e.g., through coding or the use of square brackets).

If encoding RDA in MARC, square brackets appear to be the only option for “some other means.”  In the development of BIBFRAME, are there plans to enable an encoding to indicate that information has been supplied?

MODS has already developed this attribute. See, for example, the titleInfo element, for which the “supplied” attribute is defined as follows:


An indication that the title information did not come from the resource itself.


This attribute is used as supplied="yes" when the title information has been supplied from an external source, not from the resource.

MODS also defines the “supplied” attribute for originInfo/place, originInfo/publisher, originInfo/edition, and physicalDescription/extent.

Something equivalent in BIBFRAME might be useful for encoding any RDA transcribed element (as listed in RDA 2.2.4).



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