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I once recorded a Christmas record, (in the summer of course), and there were birds, mainly robins naturally, chirping throughout. 

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On 2013-08-02, at 7:56 PM, Gene Baron <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Me again.  There is also the recording of the Beethoven Emperor Concerto
> from WWII with Gieseking as soloist where you can hear bombs or artillery
> during the recording (near the end of the first movement, in my shaky
> memory).  It was released by Varese Sarabande back in the late 70's or so.
> And I think some of the Wanda Landowska Scarlatti records from Paris also
> had some war-related noises (memory even more shaky on this one).
> 
> Gene
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> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Gene Baron <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> I think I've got an old one.  I have on various LP and a Nimbus CD (one of
>> those Ambisonic ones with the acoustics of an airplane hanger) Giovanni
>> Martinelli's 1927 recording of "O tu che in seno agli angeli" from Verdi's
>> La Forza del Destino.  I have always thought I heard a single dog bark just
>> after the phrase "morte desio", and now listening to it with headphones, I
>> hear two barks -- one during "desio" at about 18 seconds from the beginning
>> and the one during the pause at about 20 seconds from the beginning.  If
>> anyone knows this recording and can listen to it, I'd like to hear what
>> people think.
>> 
>> Gene
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>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Shai Drori <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I got one.
>>> We were recording a live event that takes place in a synagogue on mount
>>> Zion. It is just across the street from the Dormission Abbey. So here we
>>> are recording these religious Jews singing and praying with the bells from
>>> the Abbey going off every hour. And the funny part was that my parter was
>>> asked one day how did we get those bell FX to sound so real. Here's a link
>>> to the project.
>>> http://www.jewish-music.huji.**ac.il/content/song-dawn<http://www.jewish-music.huji.ac.il/content/song-dawn>
>>> Shai
>>> בתאריך 02/08/13 10:31 PM, ציטוט Hooyenga, Susan Marie:
>>> 
>>> Interesting!  I wouldn't have guessed that it could be useful
>>>> information.
>>>> 
>>>> Susan
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]**gov <[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of
>>>> David Lewis
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 3:59 PM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Phonobomb examples?
>>>> 
>>>> By RCA he means "Record Corp. of America" not RCA Victor
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 3:57 PM, David Lewis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> from http://www.soundfountain.com/**allegro-royale/catalogue.html<http://www.soundfountain.com/allegro-royale/catalogue.html>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Documented instances where phonobombs may be used to *identify* a
>>>>> recording:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Discussion . . .
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> During the evaluation of certain items of the "RCA" catalogue, the
>>>>> author has found hints which might additionally point for a couple of
>>>>> items to an "East German source" and he prefers to believe in the use
>>>>> of first generation copies of radio tapes in these cases, rather than
>>>>> in the generally accepted version of low-quality tape recorded
>>>>> broadcasts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Brahms Symphony No. 4 on Royale 1239 ("Berlin Symphony Orchestra /
>>>>> Franz R. Friedl", also on Allegro/Elite 3124, "Dresden State Symphony
>>>>> Orchestra / Fritz Schreiber") is a studio recording of the same sound
>>>>> ambience as in the Haydn No. 94 on Royale 1223 and in some other works
>>>>> in their catalogue. What makes these recordings so interesting is some
>>>>> extraneous noise, clearly audible during certain soft passages in the
>>>>> slow movements, especially when earphones are used. However, this
>>>>> could only be detected in some of the cases when the usually quieter
>>>>> pressings of these performances in their incarnations on Gramophone
>>>>> were inspected. In these cases there are crows of a rooster and sounds
>>>>> of car horns coming in from outside the recording location!
>>>>> 
>>>>> It may not be without significance, in this respect, that sounds from
>>>>> car horns also intrude into the recordings of Dvorak's 9th symphony
>>>>> under Pflüger (Urania URLP 7132) as well as into  Abendroth's
>>>>> Beethoven 'Pastorale' from 1950 and into his Tchaikovsky 'Pathétique'
>>>>> from 1952, both issued on Etema. In Schubert's 'Unfinished' on Royale
>>>>> 1220 ("Rome Symphony Orchestra / Dr. Felix Guenther", also on
>>>>> Gramophone 2040, "National Opera Orchestra") there is another car horn
>>>>> finding its way into the recording somewhere in the middle of the
>>>>> first movement, and yet another one can be heard at the very beginning
>>>>> of Franck's Symphony on Royale 1288 ("Berlin Symphony Orchestra /
>>>>> Joseph Balzer", also on Gramophone 2088, "National Opera Orchestra").
>>>>> The peak may be in Haydn's 'Surprise Symphony' on Royale 1223
>>>>> ("Orchestra of the Rome Symphony / Angelo Questa", also on Gramophone
>>>>> 2040, "Varsity Symphony Orchestra"), where a rooster's crow is
>>>>> followed by a car horn and then something like the jingling bells of a
>>>>> tramway, all this at the beginning of the second movement, when
>>>>> Haydn's "surprise" is just about due. This extraneous noise, the
>>>>> rooster's contribution in particular, is a tantalizing facet of these
>>>>> "RCA" items, as this makes them likely to be connected with a very
>>>>> particular, if not unique, recording location. No definite answer can
>>>>> be given as yet to the question of where this location may have been.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In this author's opinion the fact of these very faint noises, captured
>>>>> on a tape used for a record production would rule out a mere
>>>>> off-the-air tape as a master in these instances (and many others not
>>>>> "marred" by such extra-musical ornation), because it seems unlikely
>>>>> that such delicate sounds should have been transmitted that clearly by
>>>>> AM or FM broadcasts of those times. Record piracy indisputably is a
>>>>> violation of law. Nevertheless, without a doubt, through this practice
>>>>> a couple of performances have been preserved, which otherwise would be
>>>>> lost for all times. In continuing his research, the author hopes to be
>>>>> able to rely as much on his fellow-collectors'future support as he
>>>>> could in the past. There is still much to do and surely more to
>>>>> discover.
>>>>> 
>>>>> forwarded by Uncle Dave Lewis
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 3:33 PM,  <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I recall reading that there are birds twittering on at least one of
>>>>>> Les Paul's great hit records.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In a message dated 8/2/2013 3:30:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>> [log in to unmask] writes:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Insect  noises? Like termites munching his Bosendorfer?
>>>>>> I know of one instance  where an artist dubbed in his dog barking
>>>>>> quietly at the beginning of a  piece. he had flubbed the beginning,
>>>>>> stopped, went "Shhh... shh..." to the  dog and began again. Very cute.
>>>>>> M
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *******
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/2/2013 4:18  AM, Don Cox wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 02/08/2013, Donald Clarke  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mitch Miller wanted Frank Sinatra to bark like a  dog on one of his
>>>>>>>> later Columbia sides, but he wouldn't do it and  Miller had to get
>>>>>>>> somebody else. A famous recording of  Scheherezade by the
>>>>>>>> Philadelphia Orchestra, transferred from 78s  for the new
>>>>>>>> long-playing record in 1948, had reverb added to it,  using an old
>>>>>>>> piece of tape that had a barking dog on it, and you  could hear
>>>>>>>> that on the finished LP. And there's a few live folk  recordings
>>>>>>>> made outdoors with barkers in the chorus; I've heard  one, but I
>>>>>>>> don't remember what it was. There were fiddlers playing  "The Hot
>>>>>>>> Canary", Leroy Anderson's "The Waltzing Cat"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>   Rudolf Serkin's version of the Diabelli Variations, recorded at
>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>> home, has insect noises in the background.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There are many  recordings from Kingsway Hall with audible tube
>>>>>>> trains.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Regards
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>> --
>>> בברכה,
>>> שי דרורי
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>>> 
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