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Hi
We used stick on labels for a while.
After a couple of years we found that labels had shrunk, pulling up the
edges of the disc so it was no longer flat.
The discs would play at the start and for 10 minutes or so, then the
error rate would go up until the disc would no longer play.
The only cure we found was to soak and scrape the labels off, the disc
would soon return to its original flatness and would then play.
This cheap solution to labeling CDRs turned out to be a costly mistake.
If you have a CDR with a sticky label that wont play, put it down on a
flat surface and see if has "warped"

Cheers
-pm

-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
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Sent: Mon 05 Aug 2013 12:36
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] CD-R help request

On 05/08/2013, John Schroth wrote:

> Hi Ben:
> 
> I have not heard any issues with disks that have a printable surface 
> (as part of the manufacturing process) that you can then use an inkjet

> printer to print on the disk.

I have some faded discs of this type sent out by a record company.

>  I would stay far far away from any
> labels that are applied after the fact. The chemical in the adhesive 
> on the labels can leach through the disk, also these types of labels 
> will eventually peel off at some point in time. They can also easily 
> throw a disk out of balance (these disks are spinning at 1,000's of 
> rpm's and I've seen disks self destruct when played with an off-center

> label). If I label disks for clients, I only use an archival pen and 
> most times either write in the center hub of the disk where there is 
> no data or on the very outside edge if the data has not been written 
> to fill the entire disk (as the data is written from the center 
> outwards).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John Schroth
> 
> On 8/5/2013 10:46 AM, James Roth wrote:
>> Hello Mr. Spencer,
>> 
>> I just read [below] that the labels on CDs can cause problems.
>> Are you referring to ready-made print CDs or the ones where we buy 
>> labels and press them on?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Ben Roth
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List 
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Donald Clarke
>> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 10:30 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] CD-R help request
>> 
>> Do they have labels on them? That would explain it, the chemical 
>> stickum causing apparently terminal problems, but I have heard of 
>> people soaking and washing CDs to get the labels off successfully.
>> 
>> Donald Clarke
>> 
>> On Aug 5, 2013, at 10:07 AM, John Spencer wrote:
>> 
>> Collective wisdom of the ARSC list,
>> 
>> I got a message from an archivist friend, and while we haven't tried 
>> anything ourselves, I thought I would post his message to the list to

>> see if anyone had any ideas for recovery.
>> 
>> Any help is greatly appreciated and I will forward it to him.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> John Spencer
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>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> I'm beginning to have some problems with many of the CD-R's that are 
>> in the collection I work with. Most of theseCD-R's were made from 
>> analog sources [we thankfully still have them] over 10 years ago, 
>> long before we had any sort of digital storage system. These CD-R's 
>> suffer from a variety of jitter/glitches when exported into the 
>> computer and many of them skip or hang up when played in a CD player.
>> They were all created using a stand-alone Sony CDR-W33 burner and the

>> CD-R stock was JVC/Taiyo Yuden.
>> 
>> My current platform is Mac. I've tried a couple of different CD 
>> drives, thinking that may make a difference, but no dice. I've tried 
>> copying some of them through iTunes using its built-in error 
>> correction. I've downloaded MAX-a CD ripper application for Mac that 
>> uses a version of cdparanoia-I've also tried Pillage, so far nothing 
>> has made any noticeable difference.
>> 
>> If you have any thoughts on ways to productively do this, or know of 
>> anyone who has successfully dealt with a problem like this, please 
>> let me know.
>> 
Regards
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Don Cox
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