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Could someone diagram a few of these? I think that would be clearer than a verbal description. kc On 8/28/13 9:07 AM, Trail, Nate wrote: > Yes, the sound recording as a whole is a Work that is an aggregate of other works. > Each Work on that recording could also have a relationship to another Work (based on it's uniform title) ... or other "editions" of the same work. > > Nate > -----Original Message----- > From: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bowers, Kate A. > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:54 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [BIBFRAME] What used to be uniform titles > > Let me see if I get this: > > I have a sound recording that has bits and pieces from one or more composers and performers. > > The whole sound recording has a title. > > Each bit and piece from each composer has a title of the work as performed on the sound recording and also has a uniform title. Bits and pieces uniform titles consist of name of composer + work type + catalog raisonne number + etc. > > So, BIBFRAME titles involved in this description will be: > 1. Title of publication.* > 2. Uniform title of publication if applicable. Say, they are all selections from Beethoven, so Beethoven + Selections. > 3. Title as given on publication for each bit or piece. > 4. Uniform title for each bit or piece. More "gathering" works, but each one of these is for a selected bit or piece. > > *Isn't the publication also a "gathering" work, in that it is a compilation? > > Can you let me know if I am on the right track? The reason I ask is that this compilation description in BIBFRAME comes closest to archival aggregations as anything. > > Thanks! > > Kate > > ________________________________________ > From: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Trail, Nate [[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:36 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [BIBFRAME] What used to be uniform titles > > Jean, > > Each of those titles would be BIBFRAME Works in their own right, but would also relate to a grouping Work with what you have as the uniform title as it's title. > Therefore, a search for the "Robert Shaw legacy" would tell you it's part of a larger collection of stuff, and a search for your uniform title string will allow you to discover the individual titles associated with it. > > > Nate > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Harden, Jean > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 3:53 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [BIBFRAME] What used to be uniform titles > > I haven't seen anything yet that struck me as handling this situation (but quite possibly I've missed something): > > In my library we have publications with these titles: > > . Beethoven greatest hits > . Historische Aufnahmen > . Wilhelm Furtwängler > . WRR Classical 101.1 FM, 50th anniversary > . The Robert Shaw legacy (1956-1997) > . Discover the symphony > . The artistry of Philippe Herreweghe > . Joy! The great composers' hits for the 70's > > > All of them (and many more) contain, in whole or in part, the work (FRBR sense) we in the U.S. have been calling Beethoven, Ludwig van, 1770-1827. Symphonies, no. 9, op. 125, D minor > > The work is currently identified by a conjunction of the composer's name and a title formulated by recipe, but no publication is ever going to have exactly that title on the title page or the disc label or the title frame/title screen or any other imaginable source within the resource. Although all but one of my examples are in English, that is pure chance; resources containing this work might be in any language, but the notation will be readable even by a user who cannot read the title. > > RDA allows for recording all the information in that string, but eventually it will not exist as a string constructed by the cataloger. Right now RDA does include rules for formulating such strings, but those are, as I understand it, an interim measure. Eventually, they will not exist. Nevertheless, Bibframe will need to give users a way to find all the resources that contain some particular "work" of this sort. > > How does Bibframe accommodate such FRBR works and make them discoverable? > > > Jean Harden > Coordinator of Music Technical Services > University of North Texas > Denton, TX 76203 > [log in to unmask] -- Karen Coyle [log in to unmask] http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet