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There is nothing restricting these to subject situations. In id.loc.gov it says in a note that it's a subject relationship but that's all (and maybe we don't want to keep that note). The terms "depicted" and "setting" imply aboutness; if something is set in a certain place it tells you something about that place and if someone is depicted in a photograph they are the subject of it. But, as has been mentioned, for MARC that just means you'd expect to see them in 6XX fields, although there is nothing that requires that. How did you want to use these?

 

Rebecca

 

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Thanks, Rebecca. Do you know if either of these could be used in non-subject situations?

kc

On 8/21/13 12:56 PM, Guenther, Rebecca wrote:

There are 2 of these that have a subject relationship:

depicted

setting (this one is new and was added in 2013):

 

Setting [stg]

An entity in which the activity or plot of a work takes place, e.g. a geographic place, a time period, a building, an event

Rebecca

 

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Thanks, Mac - I wasn't thinking about people as subjects, but that adds an interesting twist. The section in the document on subject authorities doesn't address this. I wonder if there are relators that can be applied to a person (or corporate body) as either a subject or an "agent" (creator, producer, etc.). Unfortunately, the note that indicates that:

·  Editorial Notes


doesn't show on the file downloads, so I don't see an easy way to find out how many there are.

kc


On 8/21/13 10:19 AM, J. McRee Elrod wrote:

This is less of a question for subjects since there is only one
relationship there ...
 
Not in our experience.  In cataloguing an etching collection, we had
"$edepicted" on subject headings for people, buildings, places, etc.
 
This relationship differs from "about" which is understood as opposed
to having a MARC relator code, or an RDA relator term.
 
The authority for the person/thing/whatever must exclude role, with
role being another element.  The same person may for three or more
roles in relation to a resource, e.g., the writer/director/actor of/in
film.
 
 
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