Yeah, we're on the same page Tom. But I would like this instance to serve the broader purpose of being more exact and less anecdotal about who "owns" what in the world of older sound recordings. I think the real answer in more cases than we think is that nobody knows anymore. James -----Original Message----- From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tom Fine Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 1:30 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Paramount Box Set - where the artwork was sourced from Hi James: That was my point in nailing Steve down on what exactly Tefteller said. I suspect there's no "bootlegging" going on at all, but perhaps some sour grapes over not renting original source material from one person or another. -- Tom Fine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolf, James L" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Paramount Box Set - where the artwork was sourced from > On the subject of the Paramount set and "bootlegging," I'd prefer that until the set is proven in > a court of law to be a bootleg or otherwise illegal re-issue, it not be referred to as such. > Innocent until proven guilty and all that. > > Over the years I have heard a lot of talk about the alleged ownership of Paramount, Black Swan, > Emerson and other small 78 labels. But despite numerous re-issues over the last 20 years I have > seen no legal action that has established the definitive ownership of these recordings. While the > Paramount set is not of great interest to me as a collector, I hope that its existence can settle > once and for all the question of whether anyone truly owns the rights to the recordings it > contains. > > James > > > Standard disclaimer: All opinions are personal and do not reflect policy or position of the > Library of Congress. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf > Of Michael Gillman > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 10:03 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Paramount Box Set - where the artwork was sourced from > > Some pictures of the set. > > http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/vt.mpl?f=vinyl&m=1064579 > > > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Steve Ramm <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Tom: you'll have to ask John. I emailed him when I first heard about >> the set last month - especially when I heard about the ART BOOK and he >> replied: >> >> "No, I had NOTHING to do with that Paramount set.. I consider that set >> a bootleg product and am not promoting it in any way." >> >> I didn't follow up. Since John owns the large stash of Artwork - he >> was planning a DV of it about 6 years ago (at less than the set from >> TMR)- that he found, the material in the Revenant/Third Man set must >> have come from somewhere else. >> >> But John may have been referring to the "artwork" and not the >> recordings as bootlegs. >> >> That's all I know. >> >> Steve >> >> >> In a message dated 11/3/2013 2:08:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> [log in to unmask] writes: >> >> Hi Steve: >> >> So can you explain Tefteller's "bootleg" comment? You've repeated it >> several times in your posts. >> "Bootleg" suggest something illegal or illegitimate about this >> product, which does not seem to be the case. >> >> -- Tom Fine >> > >