I get around the RIAA curve by recording slow. High frequencies on a 78 when played at 33 1/3 will be presented to the RIAA circuitry at just under a third of their original frequency. i.e. 10,000 cycles at 78 will be just over 3,000 cycles at 33 1/3 which means less suppression of the high frequencies at playback. The result is a fabulous kick of bass and depth , and clarity and transparency for the high frequencies. I have digitized thousands or recordings this way and am satisfied that it works for most recordings - but not all. e.g. Columbias - notably 'Gentlemen Prefer Blondes' is one of these exceptions. Once you play a 78 through an RIAA preamp at full speed, you kill much of the high frequency information and you cannot equalize it to get it back-Anyone interested in a sample to illustrate this, please advise me and I can send an example. I have covered everything from symphonic, opera, blues, jazz and spoken word and have samples I can send as mp3's. The link below is a slow transfer of the Gigli/Caniglia version of Verdi's Requiem. I did adjust the bass eq slightly to smooth it out, as there was a bit of a hump in the curve before eq. the trble is kept intact - all the best to the group and a Merry Christmas to All-Mickey Clark http://www.amazon.com/Verdi-Requiem-CDN255-Royal-Serafin/dp/B004YZCJTW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1387645955&sr=8-2&keywords=verdi+requiem+m.c.productions Mickey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pomeroy" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Record Equalization > The Radiotron Handbook entry shows only one curve "used by R.C.A. Victor > for 78 r.p.m. shellac discs, 45 r.p.m. and 33 1/3 r.p.m. fine groove" > discs. As there was no RCA Victor before 1929, this does not tell the > whole Victor story and does not answer the specific question Steve Smolian > asks (about electrical Victors made in the short period before November of > 1925). > > Maxfield and Harrison's 1926 paper describing the Western Electric system > clearly indicates a bass turnover of 200 Hz and pre-emphasis ("constant > acceleration") above "approximately 4000 Hz". This was before electrical > record players were widely available and this curve was developed in > consideration of playback by acoustic record players. > > As has been mentioned, Victor raised the bass turnover over the years from > 200 Hz to 300 Hz and finally to 500 Hz. Nick Bergh knows the cutting > equipment used and speaks with authority on the subject of EQ. I showed > him a Victor ledger sheet from December 1926 which includes a column > marked "Eqlzr." and it only shows the words "on" or "off" which doesn't > tell us what we'd really like to know! It's safe to say that at Victor, > experiments with various cutting equalizations were being done > on an ongoing basis. > > Doug Pomeroy > Audio Restoration and Mastering Services > 193 Baltic St > Brooklyn, NY 11201-6173 > (718) 855-2650 > [log in to unmask] > > > >> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:36:58 +0000 >> From: "Gray, Mike" <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: Re: Record equalization >> >> From Radiotron Designer's Handbook, 4th Ed. 1953, p. 728, item 17.5: >> >> >> "There is no 'optimum' cross-over frequency because the choice is >> necessarily a compromise. Where distortion is the principal criterion, a >> low cros-over frequency from 250 to 350 c/s will be adopted for standard >> groove 78 r.p.m. Where needle scratch is troublesome with 78 r.p.m. a >> high cross-over frequency of say 500 c/s may be adopted." >> >> >> On page 730, under Practical recording characteristics: >> >> >> "There does not appear to be any generally accepted definition of >> published recording characteristics." >> >> >> In the two figures on this page, European characteristics show several >> cross-over points, ranging from 300 Hz (Decca ffrr) >> to 600 Hz for EMI 78 rpm. Note that there is no pre-emphasis at all for >> the EMI discs, which are 'flat' up to 10 Khz. >> >> >> American 78s, however, show a boost of ca. 12 db at 10 KHz ... >> >> >> FWIW >> >> >> Mike Gray > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com