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Test post in new browser I would much rather see these collections end up at Goodwill or Salvation Army,where crate diggers like me could get at it,and push the stuff further down the line. Roger > Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 10:07:00 -0500 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] steven barr > To: [log in to unmask] > > It's a real issue, and we should all mark Tom's words. I have bought > collections and particpated in clean-outs for relatives and others, and > believe me, the real enemy of the great collection is the dumpster. That > is where a lot of them go. My goal is to skinny down what I have while I > am alive, and then leave some kind of list or markings of what is really > valuable. To the non-collectors in our families who have tolerated our > collections for years, it is usually all junk to be got rid of. > > Best, > John Haley > > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:07 AM, eugene hayhoe <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > I, when I walk into my basement, feel like 'what a lucky guy.' My wife, > > OTOH, goes 'OMG!' and mostly won't even come down here. > > > > The concern I have is finding the spot where 'she gets the most value' and > > 'the recordings, etc. end up in the right places' meet - most dealers have > > personal financial interests, and the moving 'would not be a quick, casual > > job.' I've suggested more than once that she 'hire someone to open a > > temporary store' as the best way to liquidate, but she doesn't display much > > enthusiasm, despite the quite profitable nature of that idea. One friend > > could be interested in some, but has his own space issues of the same > > nature. As a retired college faculty member, I wouldn't trust much of any > > school to 'use them appropriately.' > > > > I've also told her that 'if Koester is still around when that time comes, > > he'd probably be interested.' > > > > And in NO way is that a dis; only spoke to him once, but 'have been > > appreciating his efforts in preserving American music for over 45 years.' > > > > Gene > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > On Tue, 12/3/13, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] steven barr > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Date: Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 8:03 AM > > > > One lesson that can be learned is > > that we who collect should explore, while we are healthy, > > vital and with full faculties, who might want to inherit our > > collections. Is there an institution or archive we trust, > > and is interested? Another collector? Would we like to > > pre-arrange an auction with an expert in the topic areas > > where we focus our collection? Don't assume spouses or > > children or friends know or care about your collection, > > unless you have included them in it and they have expressed > > interest. > > > > Having inherited a few collections of records and vintage > > audio gear, I will say that it is never an easy process > > because of the bulk, logistics, storage and other issues. > > There is always expense and time-burden put on the person > > taking over the collection, so make sure that person wants > > the collection enough to put in the time and put up the > > money. In my case, it helped very much in the cases where > > the collection was well-documented. It also helped that two > > of the collections had been introduced to me gradually, with > > detailed explaination from the original owners. In fact I > > treasure those times, with people I respected and cared for > > explaining something they loved and about which they knew a > > great deal, more than I treasure the actual items. > > > > In the other cases, it was "hey I know you like this kind of > > stuff and we need to clean out XX's house so we can sell it, > > if you'll come and take it away you can have it." In those > > cases, I was much more likely to sell off pieces in order to > > cover my logistics and storage expenses, very soon after > > taking possession. I do not regret any of those sales, > > because some very nice items passed into hands that > > appreciate and use them today. In these cases, I have passed > > back all other sales proceeds to the people generous enough > > to call me rather than put stuff in the dumpster or turn it > > over to an estate-sale hack to get pennies on the dollar of > > the true values. Net-net, I ended up keeping fewer items > > from these collections, but it's nice to have those things. > > > > The final case I've been involved in was my friend, 10 years > > my junior, who died suddenly earlier this year. His father > > needed help assessing his house-full of audio gear, tapes > > and records, and finding buyers for what had monetary value > > and takers for the rest. We managed to get 90% of it sold > > and given away, and the rest really was dumpster junk. I > > bought some equipment items, which I am happy to have, and > > his father gave me his records and tapes, which I am very > > pleased to have and will remind me of my good friend gone > > too soon. > > > > The point of this is, if you care about what happens to your > > collection when you're gone, you need to be proactive. The > > best time to be proactive is when you have the energy and > > the presence of mind to do it, ie not at the very end. You > > can't take it with you, and you must assume that no one else > > values it and nothing good will happen to it unless you make > > preparations and enlist allies who will outlive you. > > > > -- Tom Fine > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "eugene hayhoe" <[log in to unmask] > > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 7:26 AM > > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] steven barr > > > > > > > All that work collecting and organizing for naught? A > > shame. Hope they ended up with 'someone who appreciates what > > they have.' > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > > On Mon, 12/2/13, Dave Burnham <[log in to unmask]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] steven barr > > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > Date: Monday, December 2, 2013, 9:00 PM > > > > > > David Lennick is your best bet, > > > however I'm not sure he has the info either. I don't > > think > > > there is an e-mail address because the reason he > > stopped > > > posting on 78L was because he didn't have a computer. > > He may > > > well be out of reach. I understand his records have > > been > > > liquidated to cover debts owing. > > > > > > db > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > On Dec 2, 2013, at 8:43 PM, David Seubert <[log in to unmask]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Anybody heard from Steve Barr lately and have a > > current > > > contact email? The > > > > email I have for him bounces. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >