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If they buy at the thrify shops, it's likely they will.  

Steve Smolian

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From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
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Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] WSJ article on vinyl playbackl equipment

Most people starting out in vinyl won't be fooling with anything pre-RIAA.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Smolian" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] WSJ article on vinyl playbackl equipment


> All this assumes stereo records that are RIAA, which is fine if you care
to
> limit yourself to stereo or mono that was recut to RIAA.  
> 
> Steve Smolian
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stewart Gooderman
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 2:03 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] WSJ article on vinyl playbackl equipment
> 
> What about buying a half-decent stereo receiver? Are the pre-amps in these
> units so inferior? Then attach speakers to the receiver.
> 
> DrG
> 
> On Mar 15, 2014, at 8:34 AM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>> One other comment about this "starter" vinyl system. It will definitely
> produce far superior sound to vintage record-wreckers, anything sold by
> "Crosley" and most other catalog-sold self-contained "record players." If
> any listmembers or their friends/family are considering plungeing into
vinyl
> (it'll be a deep dive before you're done, be forewarned!), I recommend the
> following:
>> 
>> 1. read the manual carefully to your turntable. Understand how to align a
> cartridge. You will not enjoy playback without a properly aligned
cartridge.
> Any of the Technics-like Chinese turntables can use the Technics alignment
> gauge/headshell holder. You can still find these little plastic do-dads
for
> a few bucks from Needle Doctor or KAB. You can find a good, useful
alignment
> grid from Sleeve City.
>> 
>> 2. also from Sleeve City, you will find several options at low cost for
> record cleaning, I would say that the Spin-Clean is the minimum system
> likely to properly clean the records you get for a buck at the Goodwill or
> yard sale. There is a good stylus cleaner sold by Sleeve City, too. They
> also sell reasonably-priced record crates. The assemble-yourself model,
for
> about $20, can be copied if you have a few wood-shop tools. It's very
useful
> for keeping your "in rotation" records near your turntable.
>> 
>> 3. finally, from Sleeve City or the place in Rochester NY (which is more
> costly than Sleeve City), invest in good plastic-lined inner sleeves.
Always
> dump old paper and plastic inner sleeves, and dump most of the inner
sleeves
> included with new-issue vinyl, especially those pink plastic inner sleeves
> used by Sony. A few cents invested will save a lifetime of scuffing on the
> record. Vinyl "guru" Mike Fremer makes a convincing argument that if you
> clean and store your records properly from the get-go, and keep your
stylus
> clean always, and set your cartridge tracking angles correctly, and track
at
> the light weights recommended by the manufacturer of your cartridge, your
> records should not wear out over hundreds of plays. Antique
record-wreckers
> will destroy your platters from the first play forward.
>> 
>> 4. A good phono preamp will sound superior to what's built into any of
> these "USB turntables." I would say that should be your first upgrade.
There
> are many choices under $200 that do the job well.
>> 
>> Bottom line, if I were starting out in the world of LP records, I'd set
it
> up this way:
>> 
>> 1. Music Hall USB turntable - $250
>> 
>> 2. Shure M97 cartridge - $100 or Denon DL-110 cartridge - $130
>> 
>> 3. Cambridge Audio phono preamp/USB ADC - $230
>> 
>> 4. Audio-Technica ATH-M50 headphones - $150
>> 
>> 5. figure $300-500 for a good headphone amp, more like $500 if you want a
> decent USB DAC so you can listen to your laptop or PC.
>> 
>> 6. if you want powered speakers, there are many choices at many price
> ranges. Anything with a woofer smaller than 8" will not give you very good
> bass response, so figure on a subwoofer.
>> 
>> -- Tom Fine
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Ramm" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 11:04 AM
>> Subject: [ARSCLIST] WSJ article on vinyl playbackl equipment
>> 
>> 
>>> Not to start a discussion but for those who don't get the Wall Street 
>>> Journal you might enjoy reading this if interested in NEW "Home" 
>>> playback
>>> equipment:
>>> 
>>> _Svelte  Systems for Spinning Vinyl - WSJ.com_ 
>>> (http://online.wsj.com/news/article_email/SB1000142405270230379590457
>>> 9433222363701870-lMyQjAxMTA0MDEwNTEx
>>> NDUyWj)
>>> 
>>> Steve Ramm
>>> 
> 
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