Hi Tom -- Rubber cement on records (your last paragraph)? How? Pour it on, let it dry, peel it off, and your problems are solved? (Sure -- speaking of solvents!) As an old collector I thought I'd probably heard the goofy theories that abound, but that's a new one. Thanks. Let us know if you feel like it. Don Tait P.S. During the 1970s I met a crazy "collector" who claimed that the very best treatment for 78-rpm records was black shoe polish. Kiwi, specifically. One was to smear the polish on the record's grooves, rub until there was a high polished gloss. And then all sound and surface problems were solved. Sure.... In a message dated 3/15/2014 4:45:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Hi Duane: Could someone use one of these things to do the method you describe, rather than having to find and then make the space for an old turntable? http://www.sleevecityusa.com/All-Media-Disc-Cleaning-Mat-p/cd-506.htm They also sell cleaning cloths which I'll say are good for CDs, haven't tried on vinyl: http://www.sleevecityusa.com/Phoenix-Record-Cleaning-Cloth-p/phx-cloth.htm One thing I DON'T recommend is trying any of the foolish DIY "conversions" for a shop vac into a record cleaner. I expect you'll ruin a few platters on the way to figuring out that's a bad idea. There also seems to be some mythology out there on the web about using rubber cement. Good luck with that. -- Tom Fine ----- Original Message ----- From: "H D Goldman" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] WSJ article on vinyl playbackl equipment > Hi Tom, > > From my perspective, you need to keep in mind that the way fluids are removed is secondary to the > actual cleaning. Cleaning is performed by the fluid, applicator & method. The same end result > can be reached whether using vacuum-assisted fluid removal or pure cotton terry cloth rags to wick > fluid from the groove. An ultrasonic bath is not a substitute for a properly configured blend of > surfactants. Our own approach has been in public view for over 25 yrs. > > A quart of our QuickWash Record Cleaner w/ 4oz. dispenser [no-rinse required], a single wet > cleaning brush w/user replaceable pad & a set of cotton drying cloths is less than a Spin-Clean. > > A pint of our premiere product, the Miracle Record Cleaner w/ 4oz. dispenser [makes up 1.5 pints > working strength], a pair wet cleaning brushes w/user replaceable pads & a set of cotton drying > cloths are is within several $ of the Spin Cleaner. > > The only other items we recommend for cleaning are an old changer with a rubber mat configured > with a concentric circle design as a work platform & a vinyl covered dish rack. > > The QW solution is for vinyl pressings only. The MRC has a long track record of superior cleaning > of lacquer, shellac, acetate, Diamond Disc & vinyl surfaces. > > It's all about setting a standard for the quality of recorded sound ..... it's always been about > the MUSIC! > > Cheers, > > Duane Goldman > > ps we hope to have available a safer & more effective approach to cleaning lacquer masters prior > to plating before years end. > > > On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Hi Duane: >> >> Agreed that the Spin-Clean is not on par with something like a VPI. >> >> So what are your recommendations "for less money"? >> >> -- Tom Fine > > H D Goldman Lagniappe Chemicals Ltd. > PO Box 37066 St. Louis, MO 63141 USA > v/f 314 205 1388 [log in to unmask] > >