Hi Tom --
  Rubber cement on records (your last paragraph)? How? Pour  it on, let it 
dry, peel it off, and your problems are solved? (Sure -- speaking  of 
solvents!) As an old collector I thought I'd probably heard the goofy  theories 
that abound, but that's a new one. Thanks. Let us know if you feel  like it. 
  Don Tait
  P.S. During the 1970s I met a crazy "collector" who claimed  that the 
very best treatment for 78-rpm records was black shoe polish. Kiwi,  
specifically. One was to smear the polish on the record's grooves, rub until  there 
was a high polished gloss. And then all sound and surface problems  were 
solved. Sure....
In a message dated 3/15/2014 4:45:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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Hi  Duane:

Could someone use one of these things to do the method you  describe, 
rather than having to find and 
then make the space for an old  turntable?

They  also sell cleaning cloths which I'll say are good for CDs, haven't 
tried on  vinyl:

One  thing I DON'T recommend is trying any of the foolish DIY "conversions" 
for a  shop vac into a 
record cleaner. I expect you'll ruin a few platters on the  way to figuring 
out that's a bad idea. 
There also seems to be some  mythology out there on the web about using 
rubber cement. Good luck with  

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "H  D Goldman" <[log in to unmask]>
To:  <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 3:10  PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] WSJ article on vinyl playbackl  equipment

> Hi Tom,
> From my perspective, you  need to keep in mind that the way fluids are 
removed is secondary to the  
> actual cleaning.  Cleaning is performed by the fluid, applicator  & 
method.  The same end result 
> can be reached whether using  vacuum-assisted fluid removal or pure 
cotton terry cloth rags to wick 
>  fluid from the groove.  An ultrasonic bath is not a substitute for a  
properly configured blend of 
> surfactants.  Our own approach has  been in public view for over 25 yrs.
> A quart of our QuickWash  Record Cleaner w/ 4oz. dispenser [no-rinse 
required], a single wet 
>  cleaning brush w/user replaceable pad & a set of cotton drying cloths is 
 less than a Spin-Clean.
> A pint of our premiere product, the  Miracle Record Cleaner w/ 4oz. 
dispenser [makes up 1.5 pints 
> working  strength], a pair wet cleaning brushes w/user replaceable pads & 
a set of  cotton drying 
> cloths are is within several $ of the Spin  Cleaner.
> The only other items we recommend for cleaning are an  old changer with a 
rubber mat configured 
> with a concentric circle  design as a work platform & a vinyl covered 
dish rack.
> The  QW solution is for vinyl pressings only.  The MRC has a long track 
record  of superior cleaning 
> of lacquer, shellac, acetate, Diamond Disc &  vinyl surfaces.
> It's all about setting a standard for the  quality of recorded sound  
..... it's always been about 
> the  MUSIC!
> Cheers,
> Duane Goldman
>  ps  we hope to have available a safer & more effective approach to  
cleaning lacquer masters prior 
> to plating before years  end.
> On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Tom Fine  <[log in to unmask]> 
>> Hi  Duane:
>> Agreed that the Spin-Clean is not on par with  something like a VPI.
>> So what are your recommendations  "for less money"?
>> -- Tom Fine
> H D  Goldman Lagniappe Chemicals Ltd.
> PO Box 37066 St. Louis, MO 63141  USA
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