Hello, Tom, Don,

I would also like to know if there are some advantages of using rubber 
cement for cleaning records. Anyone from the list tried it with 
shellac/lacqers? I've only read on Audiokarma forum from one single person 
that it works great on shellac as well on vinyl.

Thank you!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Tait ([log in to unmask])" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:24 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] WSJ article on vinyl playbackl equipment

> Hi Tom --
>  Rubber cement on records (your last paragraph)? How? Pour  it on, let it
> dry, peel it off, and your problems are solved? (Sure -- speaking  of
> solvents!) As an old collector I thought I'd probably heard the goofy 
> theories
> that abound, but that's a new one. Thanks. Let us know if you feel  like 
> it.
>  Don Tait
>  P.S. During the 1970s I met a crazy "collector" who claimed  that the
> very best treatment for 78-rpm records was black shoe polish. Kiwi,
> specifically. One was to smear the polish on the record's grooves, rub 
> until  there
> was a high polished gloss. And then all sound and surface problems  were
> solved. Sure....
> In a message dated 3/15/2014 4:45:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
> Hi  Duane:
> Could someone use one of these things to do the method you  describe,
> rather than having to find and
> then make the space for an old  turntable?
> They  also sell cleaning cloths which I'll say are good for CDs, haven't
> tried on  vinyl:
> One  thing I DON'T recommend is trying any of the foolish DIY 
> "conversions"
> for a  shop vac into a
> record cleaner. I expect you'll ruin a few platters on the  way to 
> figuring
> out that's a bad idea.
> There also seems to be some  mythology out there on the web about using
> rubber cement. Good luck with
> that.
> -- Tom Fine
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "H  D Goldman" <[log in to unmask]>
> To:  <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 3:10  PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] WSJ article on vinyl playbackl  equipment
>> Hi Tom,
>> From my perspective, you  need to keep in mind that the way fluids are
> removed is secondary to the
>> actual cleaning.  Cleaning is performed by the fluid, applicator  &
> method.  The same end result
>> can be reached whether using  vacuum-assisted fluid removal or pure
> cotton terry cloth rags to wick
>>  fluid from the groove.  An ultrasonic bath is not a substitute for a
> properly configured blend of
>> surfactants.  Our own approach has  been in public view for over 25 yrs.
>> A quart of our QuickWash  Record Cleaner w/ 4oz. dispenser [no-rinse
> required], a single wet
>>  cleaning brush w/user replaceable pad & a set of cotton drying cloths is
> less than a Spin-Clean.
>> A pint of our premiere product, the  Miracle Record Cleaner w/ 4oz.
> dispenser [makes up 1.5 pints
>> working  strength], a pair wet cleaning brushes w/user replaceable pads &
> a set of  cotton drying
>> cloths are is within several $ of the Spin  Cleaner.
>> The only other items we recommend for cleaning are an  old changer with a
> rubber mat configured
>> with a concentric circle  design as a work platform & a vinyl covered
> dish rack.
>> The  QW solution is for vinyl pressings only.  The MRC has a long track
> record  of superior cleaning
>> of lacquer, shellac, acetate, Diamond Disc &  vinyl surfaces.
>> It's all about setting a standard for the  quality of recorded sound
> ..... it's always been about
>> the  MUSIC!
>> Cheers,
>> Duane Goldman
>>  ps  we hope to have available a safer & more effective approach to
> cleaning lacquer masters prior
>> to plating before years  end.
>> On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Tom Fine  <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>>> Hi  Duane:
>>> Agreed that the Spin-Clean is not on par with  something like a VPI.
>>> So what are your recommendations  "for less money"?
>>> -- Tom Fine
>> H D  Goldman Lagniappe Chemicals Ltd.
>> PO Box 37066 St. Louis, MO 63141  USA
>> v/f 314 205 1388 [log in to unmask]