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This market is collector rather than dealer driven. Some buyers look on early jazz lps as culturally significan artifacts. Some like the mastering of Rudy van Gelder, one of the few engineers who recorded and cut his own masters regularly. There are those to whom the original graphics in their original fabrication is significant. Etc, etc., etc. Steve Smolian -----Original Message----- From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tom Fine Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 1:09 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Vinyl weight and reissues Hi Steve: Not trying to undermine your used record business, so relax! Yes, some people prefer the "original artifact," and some of those old platters definitely play well (as long as they didn't spend too much time on a record-wrecker groove-grinder). Some are also quiet, and some early cuts are very dynamic and undistorted. However, cutting technology improved and quiet vinyl is better whether it's thick or thin. If one desires scratchy, distorted sound as part of the "authentic" experience, please do go out and buy worn out original pressings that lived their youth spinning on the likes of Garrard console "record players." As you say, there are "many factors." -- Tom Fine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Smolian" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Vinyl weight and reissues > Preferred for what reason? > > With jazz, orifinals always bring whatever premoum there is to the record. > > An implication of lighter vinyl for early records is that the later ones > were processed using trasistorized equipment and the earlier ones used tube > equipment. There are those who consider the later an important value > factor. > > Condition of the tapes was surely better on the earlier masters made from > them. > > Many later jazz LP issues look like their earlier counterparts but may be > Japanese reisues, some from Japan, some from Japan and marketed by Fantasy. > You'd have to read reviews of these to figure out if the later processing > was better (to the reviewer's ear or psyche) than the original. > > Many factors. Folks on this and other lists will probably chime in. > > Steve Smolian > > -----Original Message----- > From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bewley, John > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 9:28 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [ARSCLIST] Vinyl weight and reissues > > We are currently processing a gift of LPs. In comparing some of the LPs to > what we already hold in our collection we have noticed how some recordings > were reissued in lighter weight vinyl. > Some examples: > Coltrane Live at the Village Vanguard again. Impulse AS-9124 Issue with > rainbow Impulse label is heavier than the issue with Impulse written in > script-type font > > Coltrane Live at the Village Vanguard Impulse As-10 Impulse red, black, and > white label issue heavier than ABC/Impulse green label issue > > John Coltrane Kulu se mama. Impulse As-9106 Issue with rainbow Impulse label > is heavier than ABC/Impulse green label issue > > John Coltrane's Soultrane. Prestige PRLP 7142 and OJC-021 (distributed by > Fantasy) PRLP 7142 heavier than OJC-021 > > I was aware of more drastic cases with things like the RCA Vintage series > but didn't ever have side by side comparisons of Impulse and Prestige in > hand before. > > Is it always true that the heavier weight issue is the preferred copy given > surfaces that are in equally good condition? Doesn't seem we're talking any > of the stereo-enhanced type of reissue here. > > We're trying to decide if any of the heavier weight copies should be > retained for the collection based on their merit as being superior sources, > if that is indeed true. > > -- > John Bewley > Associate Librarian/Archivist > Music Library > University at Buffalo > 716 645 0614 > >