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Here's a link to a cite that discusses the earliest radio broadcasts (not
limited to symphonic), based on the expertise of ARSC;s own Dr. Biel.

http://www.old-time.com/mcleod/

Best,
John Haley


On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Roger Kulp <[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> I have often wondered,what is the earliest surviving recording of a
> symphony orchestra radio broadcast?
>
> > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 10:51:58 -0700
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Ford Sunday Evening Hour broadcasts
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > Yes,
> >
> > February 10, 1922, as noted in the posting, so the DSO beat the NY Phil
> by 6 months.
> >
> > However, as a consolation, it appears that NYPO had the first national
> broadcast in 1930,
> > 4 years before the DSO began their Ford Hour broadcasts.
> >
> >
> > -- Leo Gillis
> >
> > --------------------------------------------
> > On Thu, 3/20/14, Steven Smolian <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >  Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Ford Sunday Evening Hour broadcasts
> >  To: [log in to unmask]
> >  Date: Thursday, March 20, 2014, 7:24 PM
> >
> >  Can you supply date?
> >
> >  New York Phil. Many summer Concerts were complete, the first
> >  being 8/11/22.
> >
> >  Steve Smolian
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> >  [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >  On Behalf Of Leo Gillis
> >  Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:09 PM
> >  To: [log in to unmask]
> >  Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Ford Sunday Evening Hour broadcasts
> >
> >  Hi Steve,
> >
> >  There certainly were earlier broadcasts of classical music
> >  on the radio but it seems that the DSO was the first to do a
> >  full concert.
> >
> >  This is from the DSO website:
> >
> >  "In 1922, Gabrilowitsch led the orchestra and guest pianist
> >  Artur Schnabel in the world's first radio broadcast of a
> >  symphonic concert on WWJ-AM. "
> >
> >  and from last.fm:
> >
> >  "The DSO performed the world's first radio broadcast of a
> >  symphonic concert on February 10, 1922 with pianist Artur
> >  Schnabel, and became the first nationally broadcast radio
> >  orchestra on the Ford Sunday Evening Hour, later Ford
> >  Symphony Hour from 1934 to 1942 on the Columbia Broadcast
> >  System."
> >
> >  and from the Schabel Music Foundation:
> >
> >  "Feb. 1922 --Schnabel coincidentally participated in the
> >  first live radio broadcast of a complete symphony orchestra
> >  concert. This was in Detroit, Michigan during his first
> >  American tour."
> >
> >
> >  There are only four instances of Schnabel mentioned in the
> >  performance archives of the DSO. The first two are for
> >  identical concerts on Feb. 9 and 10, 1922; the second
> >  performance was the one broadcast on WWJ (which, however,
> >  was still WBL at that time, and did not receive the call
> >  letters WWJ until March 3, 1922):
> >
> >
> >  Tenth Programme
> >  Subscription 10
> >
> >  Detroit Symphony Orchestra
> >  Thursday, February 09, 1922
> >
> >  Artists
> >  Ossip Gabrilowtisch, conductor
> >  Artur Schnabel, Piano
> >
> >  Program
> >  Mendelssohn -  Overture from Calm Sea and Prosperous
> >  Voyage, Op. 27 Brahms -  Piano Concerto No.1 in D
> >  minor, Op.15 Intermission Tchaikovsky -  Symphony No. 6
> >  in B minor, Op. 74, "Pathétique"
> >
> >
> >  So when did the NYPO start their broadcasts? From their site
> >  we have:
> >
> >  "Aug. 11, 1922 -    First broadcast by a
> >  major symphony orchestra, New York Philharmonic,
> >  program conducted by Willem van Hoogstraten from Lewisohn
> >  Stadium."
> >
> >
> >  -- Leo Gillis
> >
> >  --------------------------------------------
> >  On Thu, 3/20/14, Steven Smolian <[log in to unmask]>
> >  wrote:
> >
> >   Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Ford Sunday Evening Hour
> >  broadcasts
> >   To: [log in to unmask]
> >   Date: Thursday, March 20, 2014, 5:26 PM
> >
> >   Hi, there, DDR et al,
> >
> >   The New York Philharmonic was being broadcast regularly
> >  the
> >   previous year.
> >
> >   Steve Smolian
> >
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> >   [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >   On Behalf Of Dennis Rooney
> >   Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 12:12 PM
> >   To: [log in to unmask]
> >   Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Ford Sunday Evening Hour
> >  broadcasts
> >
> >   The 1923 broadcasts are authentic but unrecorded. The were
> >   conducted by
> >   Gabrilowitsch. They may have been the first radio
> >  broadcast
> >   of a regular
> >   symphony orchestra concert. The Minneapolis Symphony under
> >   Verbrugghen also
> >   broadcast in that same year.
> >
> >   DDR
> >
> >
> >   On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:41 PM, John Haley <[log in to unmask]>
> >   wrote:
> >
> >   > Thanks, Leo.  Great info.
> >   > Best, John
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Leo Gillis <[log in to unmask]>
> >   wrote:
> >   >
> >   > > The online archives of the DSO for the Ford
> >  Sunday
> >   Evening Hour goes
> >   > > from
> >   > > 2/16/1934 to 3/8/1947. A couple are listed for
> >   1923, but I'm not
> >   > > sure if those are correct.
> >   > >
> >   > > http://www.dso.org/performanceTitle.aspx?page_id=648
> >   > >
> >   > > The list of conductors includes:  Victor
> >   Kolar, Fritz Reiner, Mischa
> >   > > Levitsky, Alexander Smallens, Charles Hackett,
> >   Richard Bonelli, Sir
> >   > Ernest
> >   > > MacMillan, Emma Otero, Franco Ghione, Elwyn
> >   Carter, Andre
> >   > > Kostelanetz,
> >   > Sir
> >   > > John Barbirolli, Sir Thomas Beecham, Wilfrid
> >   Pelletier, Jose Iturbi,
> >   > George
> >   > > Szell, Sir Eugene Ormandy, Reginald Stewart,
> >   Artur, Rodzinaksi,
> >   > > Eugene Goossens, Victor Kolar, Harold Koch,
> >  Dmitri
> >   Mitropoulos, Karl
> >   > > Krueger, William Steinberg, Leonard Bernstein,
> >   Efrem Kurtz, and C.
> >   Valter Poole.
> >   > >
> >   > > The first few years were all Kolar, (DSO
> >  principal
> >   conductor) then
> >   > > Reiner and Ormandy began appearing. Kolar,
> >  Reiner,
> >   Ormandy, Iturbi,
> >   > > Pelletier
> >   > and
> >   > > Beecham did numerous performances, and many of
> >   these in later years
> >   > > were held at the Music Hall, another fine, small
> >   venue in downtown
> >   > > Detroit, still in operation. Several of the
> >   listings unfortunately
> >   > > do not include the performance venue.
> >   > >
> >   > > -- Leo Gillis
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >  On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Don Tait
> >   ([log in to unmask])
> >
> >
> >   > > <  [log in to unmask]>
> >   > >  wrote:
> >   > >
> >   > >  > I have tapes or private CD-Rs of some
> >   of those  broadcasts. From
> >   > > circa  > 1941/2. Each 30 minutes. All I
> >   have are conducted by  Fritz
> >   > > Reiner, who  > presumably took the train
> >   up from Pittsburgh for the
> >   > > gig. I got the  > recordings  >
> >   from  fellow Reiner collectors and
> >   > > have no idea  who might  have
> >   conducted  > other  > programs. As one
> >   > > might expect, the selections are short
> >   and  the musical  > gruel is
> >   > > pretty thin. The "theme music" for each
> >   program is the  French  >
> >   > > horn  > "bedtime" music from Hansel und
> >   Gretel.
> >   > >  >
> >   > >  >   I do not remember
> >   whether the
> >   > >  announcer(s) said  from where the
> >   > >  > broadcasts originated. Sorry.
> >   > >  >
> >   > >  >   Don Tait
> >   > >  >
> >   > >  >
> >   > >  > In a message dated 3/18/2014 3:38:10
> >   P.M. Central  Daylight Time,
> >   > > > [log in to unmask]
> >   > >  writes:
> >   > >  >
> >   > >  > Starting  in 1934 and continuing
> >   for a number of  years
> >   > > thereafter, the  > Detroit
> >  Symphony
> >   appeared on a radio program,
> >   > > the  Ford Symphony Hour.
> >   > >  >  Some
> >   > >  > of  the most distinguished
> >   conductors of that time  regularly
> >   > > guested on  > this  > show,
> >  which
> >   also featured big name soloists.
> >   > >  Preserved  broadcasts show
> >   > >  > that the orchestra was an excellent
> >  one
> >   during this  period,  and
> >   > > the  > acoustics audible on these
> >   recordings sound OK, with a  touch
> >   > > of  nice hall  > ambiance.  A
> >   number of these broadcasts are sought
> >   > > after by  collectors.  I  >
> >   don't know where these shows were
> >   > > recorded, but I  assume they predate
> >   the  > Ford Auditorium referred
> >   > > to  previously.
> >   > >  >
> >   > >  > Best,
> >   > >  > John Haley
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   >
> >
> >
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