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There have been a few cases of knowledgeable consumers catching producers/labels in the act. Forum members at Computer Audiophile are a tough crowd. Recently they caught out an Absolute Sound writer who declared a reissue of Graceland to be a big improvement. Upon examination, the HDtracks download was more compressed than the original CD. That doesn't necessarily mean it didn't sound as good, but the guys declared that, too. On other occasions, they've found highrez downloads to contain no more information than the Redbook versions. While it may not be fair to blame the sellers for this ("we can only distribute what they supply to us"), there is an obligation to know what you are selling, particularly since you are attaching a (an excessive) premium to those "hi-rez" files. Since a feedback loop is obviously necessary to encourage honesty in this field, it's good to see this level of awareness. It's bad enough that the industry expects us to pay more for what they should have delivered all along - their best.

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I actually had a client not pay me about a year ago for a mastering job because it wasn't touthpasted. They went and redid it with another engineer who did. And they had the audacity (Spelling?) to use my mixes without paying for them.
Shai
בתאריך 11/03/14 12:18 PM, ציטוט Tom Fine:
> Yes. I lump them with record company hacks.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Cham" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 10:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Neil Young wants to take h igh-resoluti on 
> FLAC audio recordings mainstrea m with Pono - Tech New s and Analysis
>
>
>> Let's not forget the producers in this. Back when I was very active 
>> in recording, they were the main proponents of louder is better.
>>
>> Bob Cham
>>
>>
>>
>>> Apple, because it's Apple, hates FLAC and refuses to allow it in 
>>> iTunes. Meanwhile, Sony is belatedly putting on a big push for 
>>> native DSD, including a hardware/marketing push. So it's likely to 
>>> be muddled, SACD vs DVD-A all over again. That said, anything to 
>>> promote higher-quality downloads is a Good Thing in my book. I 
>>> include in that Mastered for iTunes, but note that the vast majority 
>>> of material sold on iTunes was not well mastered or well converted 
>>> to the lossy format. Newer stuff, if it carries the Mastered for 
>>> iTunes certification is better.
>>>
>>> On another front, I'm seeing slight signs of progress against 
>>> terrible-sounding toothpaste MAKE IT LOUDER mastering. Just the fact 
>>> that the high-rez downloads places are demanding reasonable dynamics 
>>> is trickling down to the CD mastering. I've now heard enough tales 
>>> of woe from mastering engineers -- "The Artist Made Me Do It" or 
>>> "The Record Company Suit Made Me Do It" -- that I tend to believe 
>>> them, that Make It Louder is completely the fault of tin-eared 
>>> artists and record company hacks. But that doesn't make the results 
>>> sound any better!
>>>
>>> --Tom Fine
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Stamps" 
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>>> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 6:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Neil Young wants to take h igh-resolution 
>>> FLAC audio recordings mainstrea m with Pono - Tech News and Analysis
>>>
>>>> I hope all the players update their software so FLAC will play on 
>>>> everything, but unfortunately it's not possible since many players 
>>>> (both software and hardware) sold and/or distributed in the past 
>>>> cannot be updated.
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Steve Greene wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://gigaom.com/2014/03/10/neil-young-wants-to-take-high-resolut
>>>>> ion-flac-audio-recordings-mainstream-with-pono/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Stay tuned...
>>>>>
>>>>> Curious as to what kind of mass-market penetration you can make at 
>>>>> that price-point. Is the audiophile market alone enough?
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> !DSPAM:639,531e5abb44331637612606!
>>
>>
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