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Hi Tom,

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On Mar 15, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hi Duane:
> 
> Could someone use one of these things to do the method you describe, rather than having to find and then make the space for an old turntable?
> http://www.sleevecityusa.com/All-Media-Disc-Cleaning-Mat-p/cd-506.htm
> 
> They also sell cleaning cloths which I'll say are good for CDs, haven't tried on vinyl:
> http://www.sleevecityusa.com/Phoenix-Record-Cleaning-Cloth-p/phx-cloth.htm
> 
> One thing I DON'T recommend is trying any of the foolish DIY "conversions" for a shop vac into a record cleaner. I expect you'll ruin a few platters on the way to figuring out that's a bad idea. There also seems to be some mythology out there on the web about using rubber cement. Good luck with that.
> 
> -- Tom Fine
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "H D Goldman" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 3:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] WSJ article on vinyl playbackl equipment
> 
> 
>> Hi Tom,
>> 
>> From my perspective, you need to keep in mind that the way fluids are removed is secondary to the actual cleaning.  Cleaning is performed by the fluid, applicator & method.  The same end result can be reached whether using vacuum-assisted fluid removal or pure cotton terry cloth rags to wick fluid from the groove.  An ultrasonic bath is not a substitute for a properly configured blend of surfactants.  Our own approach has been in public view for over 25 yrs.
>> 
>> A quart of our QuickWash Record Cleaner w/ 4oz. dispenser [no-rinse required], a single wet cleaning brush w/user replaceable pad & a set of cotton drying cloths is less than a Spin-Clean.
>> 
>> A pint of our premiere product, the Miracle Record Cleaner w/ 4oz. dispenser [makes up 1.5 pints working strength], a pair wet cleaning brushes w/user replaceable pads & a set of cotton drying cloths are is within several $ of the Spin Cleaner.
>> 
>> The only other items we recommend for cleaning are an old changer with a rubber mat configured with a concentric circle design as a work platform & a vinyl covered dish rack.
>> 
>> The QW solution is for vinyl pressings only.  The MRC has a long track record of superior cleaning of lacquer, shellac, acetate, Diamond Disc & vinyl surfaces.
>> 
>> It's all about setting a standard for the quality of recorded sound  ..... it's always been about the MUSIC!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Duane Goldman
>> 
>> ps  we hope to have available a safer & more effective approach to cleaning lacquer masters prior to plating before years end.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Duane:
>>> 
>>> Agreed that the Spin-Clean is not on par with something like a VPI.
>>> 
>>> So what are your recommendations "for less money"?
>>> 
>>> -- Tom Fine
>> 
>> H D Goldman Lagniappe Chemicals Ltd.
>> PO Box 37066 St. Louis, MO 63141 USA
>> v/f 314 205 1388 [log in to unmask]
>> 
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