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I agree with Peter.


Mark <https://google.com/+MarkDavis>

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On 7 April 2014 20:54, Peter Constable <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>  I’m not in favour of encoding “Shikomor” in any part of ISO 639.
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> This term refers to a fictional language of convenience: Comoros refers to
> it in their constitution as though it were a language, but in reality there
> is not a single Comorian language. This is a bit like Filipino, a desire by
> the government to have a single unifying language, except that in the case
> of Filipino there actually was some progress and some measure of success in
> engineering a unifying language. From what I understand, that has not at
> all happened in Comoros.
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> That means, for instance, that there will not be any documents, Web pages
> or other kinds of content that need to be described as being in “Shikomor”.
> Even the government that asserts a “Shikomor” language does not appear to
> publish anything claiming to be in “Shikomor”.
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> To encode in any part, it would need to qualify for inclusion in 639-3,
> the part that has is the most comprehensive. Even there, I don’t see a need
> to encode. But even if it were decided that there were some value in
> encoding the notion “Shikomor” in 639-3, I don’t think it would qualify for
> inclusion in 639-2 due to lack of documents. Also, I would not support
> encoding in 639-1 under any condition as there is no benefit to be gained,
> but costs to be incurred by many.
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> Gérard’s interest appears to be to fill in a table in ISO 3166 pertaining
> to administrative languages. I think this is a good example of why it is a
> bad idea for ISO 3166 to have included such a table in the first place –
> which the JAC advised TC46 against doing in DIS ballot comments.
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> Peter
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> *From:* ISO 639 Joint Advisory Committee [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On
> Behalf Of *Zagas, John
> *Sent:* April 7, 2014 6:32 AM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* ISO 639-1 language code request for "Shikomor"
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> Dear JAC colleagues,
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> I recently received a request from Gérard Lang (see below) proposing that
> a code be created in ISO 639-1 and ISO 639-2 for the language, "Shikomor".
> I submit this request to the JAC for review and discussion.  I should note
> that though the request is for creating the code in both Parts 1 and 2 (new
> language codes cannot be defined in Part 1 without a Part 2 counterpart),
> the requester's primary objective is to have the code defined in ISO
> 639-1.  As there have recently been long discussions on the ISOJAC Listserv
> concerning the advisability of creating new codes in ISO 639-1, the
> discussion for this request will be limited to a brief time span (a week to
> ten days at the most).  I look forward to your comments.
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> John Zagas
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> JAC Chair
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> >> Request for new ISO language code.
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> >> English name of Language:   Shikomor
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> >> French name of Language:   Comorien
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> >> Reference:
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> >> Vernacular name of Language:   Shikomor
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> >> Transliteration:
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> >> Evidence:   All federal laws of Comoros
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> >> All local laws in each of the three federated islands Treaties with
> other countries
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> >> National Evidence:   Government of Comoros
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> >> Size Evidence:   national literature
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> >> Official Evidence:   National language by article 1 of the Constitution
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> >> Education Evidence:   In the three federated islands of Comoros
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> >> Additional Info:   500 000
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> >> ISO 639-2 only :
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> >> ISO 639-2 and ISO 639-1 :   yes
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> >> three_code_suggestion :   coi
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> >> two_code_suggestion :   cm
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> >> Submitter's name:   Gérard LANG
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> >> Submitter's email :   [log in to unmask]
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> >> Submitter's status :   Liaison officer from ISO/TC 46 to ISO/TC 37
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