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Chris RDA is intended to be neutral as to which vocabularies to use for this kind of thing, as well as where format is concerned. These matters are left to the cataloguing communitites that use the standard. PCC moved fairly quickly to suggest the use of controlled vocabularies for occupations, etc., as best practice, and most NACO participants use LCSH for this. In my view it's time for PCC to consider requiring controlled vocabulary at the element level, in order for proper collocation to occur, and, at least as importantly, to facilitate linked data. For the second reason, I also think it should be a requirement to establish in LC/NAF a name used in 373. It's slightly outdated to require a name used as a qualifer to be established, but not a name used as element level metadata. It would also be welcome if PSD could reconsider accepting proposals for new LCSH needed in 372 and 374. Regards Richard _________________________ Richard Moore Authority Control Team Manager The British Library Tel.: +44 (0)1937 546806 E-mail: [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Baer Sent: 21 May 2014 18:12 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] BL Guide to RDA Name Authority Records on BL website Richard, Thank you. This is what I thought. I was just confused that my version of RDA Toolkit shows the earlier practice. I remember at the time of training that we were still using singular instead of plural for occupations, etc., and other practices that gradually changed. Chris ________________________________________ From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Moore, Richard [[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:19 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] BL Guide to RDA Name Authority Records on BL website Christopher The Guide is intended to be " A Guide to Best Practice for RDA Name Authority records in NACO". NACO practice is to use the exact LC/NAF form of name, with parentheses when present. See DCM:Z1, 370 field: "For jurisdictions or other place names with authority records in the LC/NAF, use the authorized access point form as found. The form of place name in 370 may differ from the form of place name added to a preferred name of place or an access point per RDA and LC-PCC PS instructions." Cheers Richard _________________________ Richard Moore Authority Control Team Manager The British Library Tel.: +44 (0)1937 546806 E-mail: [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Baer Sent: 21 May 2014 15:19 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] BL Guide to RDA Name Authority Records on BL website Not to nit-pick, but I noticed that for the 370 "Associated place" field, the BL Guide is using the exact NAF form of name with parentheses, e.g., "London (England)" or "Philadelphia (Pa.)," whereas the RDA Toolkit shows "London, England" or "Philadelphia, Pa." I know that the community has gone back and forth on this issue, along with "U.S." versus "United States" in the $c subfield. Can you confirm what the latest and presumably final practice is to be, or is this a local practice that will vary among different countries? Christopher T. Baer Assistant Curator Manuscripts and Archives Hagley Museum and Library -----Original Message----- From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Moore, Richard Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 6:38 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [PCCLIST] BL Guide to RDA Name Authority Records on BL website With apolgoies for cross-posting. A PDF version of the BL Guide to RDA Name Authority Records is now available from this page on our website: http://www.bl.uk/bibliographic/catstandards.html See under "RDA Documentation". Obviously the links to locations in the RDA Toolkit will only work if you have access to the Toolkit. 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